Moody_GenX t1_jdzzzc0 wrote
Reply to comment by bubblebuttmcgee in Apple illegally fired five labor activists, union says | The workers, who were disciplined and fired for attendance-related issues, believe they were let go because of their union organizing by chrisdh79
I was in a union one time in my 35 hears of working. It was my last job at a large grocery chain. We couldn't get fired unless you didn't work for 60 days, stole something or went to work for competition. We had a guy that would just leave mid shift to go drive for Uber. Wouldn't say anything to anyone, just fucking dip out. Management could only reprimand him. Him and I got into once when he tried calling me off a break 5 minutes early. I got reprimanded for telling him to fuck off in front of customers. I fucking hated that place.
ArcadianMess t1_je04qwr wrote
That sounds like a bullshit excuse .
How would that even hold up in court ?
"My client was not doing his contractually mandated job your honor but he can't be fired because unions?"
UsecMyNuts t1_je0diyy wrote
The amount of people who are ridiculously lazy and then blame unions for not facilitating that laziness is staggering.
Bluerocx t1_je05cxt wrote
Yeah I'm sure that happened. Let me guess you made a speech on your way out and everyone clapped.
Moody_GenX t1_je083yu wrote
No my father passed away, and after an extended time away while taking care of his affairs, I was let go.
Bluerocx t1_je0il9c wrote
My entire adult working life I have been a manager in unionized environments. I have fired, written up and suspended numerous union members. I have done this under three different unions and multiple union contracts. Unions don't protect lazy employees, incompetent management does.
Moody_GenX t1_je0k0a2 wrote
Judging by your original response I doubt it. You seem way too immature to be that position.
HeadmasterPrimeMnstr t1_je2ve3m wrote
Unions have progressive disciplinary policies in place to fire workers that do not fulfill their expectations of employment. No union has a contract that allows that type of behaviour because the workers themselves would be negatively harmed by such unreliable behaviour.
You're bothered by the incompetence of your manager to go through the process laid out in the union's disciplinary policy and then blaming the entire union for it.
If the worker was actually that poor of a performer, the manager could have even gotten workers to establish a collective complaint against their colleague.
Your manager refuses to understand the rules and you suffered the consequences for it.
If you no longer worker for the union, perhaps you can tell me the union and the year so I can source their collective agreement for myself because I have never heard of a union that wouldn't at least have a discussion with that coworker.
SuperSpread t1_je3eeck wrote
What about public harassment of coworkers? Because that’s also what these people did.
If a union defends people who harass coworkers, the union is the problem.
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