Submitted by McFatty7 t3_11u47qp in technology
Uncertn_Laaife t1_jcnfpt5 wrote
Reply to comment by Adventurous_Ideal849 in Big tech companies are selling their Silicon Valley campuses amid struggle by McFatty7
They are all wfh. Gone are the days when you could attract a top talent to drop into work every day. The top talent nowadays is working remote.
Hawk13424 t1_jcphp74 wrote
For software. For hardware, I have to go to work. I can’t properly bring up and debug hardware at home. Just don’t have the required equipment.
bluePostItNote t1_jco6094 wrote
I give it a few years till the pendulum swings back. I don’t see full in office work but expect a hybrid model of plan in person, execute remote, to become much more standard.
xvandamagex t1_jcor0sa wrote
I don’t know if I agree. I worked for a company that forced people back in for 2-3 days of the week (your choice on which day). Most days I commute over an hour just to sit in an empty conference room and zoom with people who are now in different cities or working remote and didn’t come in that day. Massive waste of energy and time.
Iychee t1_jcoplwb wrote
Yes and no - I work for a big tech company yet half of my team is in one city, half in another. Neither are in California. I think a lot of companies hired talent outside of SF as well during COVID, so there's a lot of mixed location teams that couldn't plan together in office anyway
favpetgoat t1_jcp4tzl wrote
I can see hybrid happening but not on the weekly basis everyone's trying RN. The whole "you need to be in office 2/5 days every week" is so bad IMO. Everyone picks different days so you don't actually get the desired productivity of everyone sitting down and working together. Having 2 work days different from the other 3 throws off a lot of routines resulting in a bunch of wasted time. Plus when people are actually in the office together they spend a lot of time socializing because they haven't seen each other in a week. (Which I guess isn't terrible from a team building perspective but there are better options)
It needs to be spaced out and concentrated to minimize the disruption from changing work locations while maximizing the benefits of working collaboratively. Something kind of like the annual shows/expos/conferences that a lot of industries have but at the company or team level (depending on company size) and a little more frequent (monthly, every few months etc). Ideally they have some well thought out goals/projects you need to work towards together and a couple social activities for team bonding while everyone's together.
bluecifer7 t1_jcpuiaw wrote
Yep this is exactly what companies should do/are doing.
I go into the office once every 6 months for an entire week at a time, and so does my entire team
Hawk13424 t1_jcpi4wd wrote
My team and coordinate when we will go into the office. And sometimes we go weeks without going in and sometimes we have to go in everyday for a few weeks. Really depends on where we are on a project. Go in during initial brainstorming. WFH doing the bulk of the early software development. Back to the office to do bring-up and debug on new hardware.
favpetgoat t1_jcqde47 wrote
That sounds ideal TBH, doing whatever makes the most sense for the given situation instead of enforcing a bunch of rules just cause that's the way it's always been
Adventurous_Ideal849 t1_jcrm9sn wrote
> the desired productivity of everyone sitting down and working together
Ah yes, the mythical productivity boost... that guts my productivity by making it impossible to prevent people interrupting me on a whim. My presence probably saves one hour a day of waiting for my online replies, between multiple people, a net loss overall.
jeffyoulose t1_jcp2gbv wrote
Offices are nice. But cubicles open layouts and terrible commutes are what makes wfh better.
caroIine t1_jcskuv5 wrote
Hybrid mode exclude traveling while working so for any high ranking employee it's a nono.
You have only one life better to spend it in e.g. on country side than in congested city.
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