BecomeABenefit t1_jddnat3 wrote
I don't really have a problem with this. I'm a libertarian, but license plates are public information. HOA's, while annoying, are voluntary organizations. Privacy laws vary in many states, but even the most stringent allow storing license plates with consent. You can even store license plates without consent as long as you're not linking them with personal information.
I imagine HOA's want to catalog all the authorized vehicles and who owns them so they can identify who owns a car that's violating the rules.
Source: My company started to implement a system for businesses that used license plates to help identify customers and we had to nix the project. HOA members who specifically opt-in as part of their HOA contract wouldn't have the same concern.
1leggeddog t1_jdds011 wrote
You dont have a problem with this until it becomes a problem that affects you.
With privacy matters, you need to look outside your own boundaries to how this information can be misused
GhostofDownvotes t1_jdgdbs8 wrote
> You dont have a problem with this until it becomes a problem that affects you.
You do have a problem with it until there is a problem and the system is not there to solve it. Your son gets kidnapped? Awww, too bad, we prioritized not knowing when you went to Wendy’s. Ta-ta!
BecomeABenefit t1_jddy7yx wrote
That genie can't go back into the bottle. License plates are public information. You're required by law to display one and people have the freedom to record license plate numbers.
1leggeddog t1_jddywhd wrote
You can totall cork that Genie back in.
We do this kind of stuff all the time in IT with personal information to prevent linking people to specific IDs (in this case, license plates).
It's one thing to look up a plate, it's another make that process easy to the point that you have your own personal database at your fingertips at all times.
This leads to abuse.
BecomeABenefit t1_jdec0wp wrote
You can for an app or a single system, but you're not going to change the entire world which already tracks literally everything you do.
JadeitePenguin1 t1_jde3ca7 wrote
And how can it be misused?
cartsucks t1_jdf1qys wrote
JadeitePenguin1 t1_jdfj2at wrote
Why do people think a link proof? Like of you're citing something sure but you're not...
If you can't give your own arguments you're not informed enough to say why.
1leggeddog t1_jde67jd wrote
Like the article suggests, it could be used to track people to locations they don't to be known, such as abortion clinics, especially in the wake of the incredibly moronic and repressive laws recently enacted in some states.
It could also be misused in the same way by falsefying records to make people appear where they were not or being purely convicted by association.
Say there was a drug bust in a neigborhood and someone that had a criminal record was keeping clean, ends up being recorded his car just passing through. People have gone to jail for less.
GhostofDownvotes t1_jdgdmfr wrote
> Say there was a drug bust in a neigborhood and someone that had a criminal record was keeping clean, ends up being recorded his car just passing through. People have gone to jail for less.
Rofl, good luck prosecutor-chan!
JadeitePenguin1 t1_jdfis1x wrote
"such as abortion clinics, especially in the wake of the incredibly moronic and repressive laws recently enacted in some states."
.....do you not understand what misuse would mean? Tracking people who break the law isn't fucking misusing it...god you people really think one way, using the same logic cars should be banned from law enforcement...
"It could also be misused in the same way by falsefying records to make people appear where they were not or being purely convicted by association."
Fucking how??? Like wtf? That doesn't even make any sense!
"Say there was a drug bust in a neigborhood and someone that had a criminal record was keeping clean, ends up being recorded his car just passing through. People have gone to jail for less."
Like no that's not a realistic scenario! Being near a crime ISN'T ENOUGH TO GET SOMEONE ARRESTED!
Hrmbee OP t1_jddu43j wrote
This isn't just about HOA residents, but also visitors to the HOA, contractors, and the like. Also, if a HOA is in a city, then likely all vehicles passing by the community will be captured as well.
Also, given the ubiquity of the collection and analysis of personal data by data brokers, companies, and other organizations, it's highly unlikely that this data will remain unlinked with other personal information. Much of the information captured will likely be of people who are not parties to that HOA contract and essentially have no say in the matter.
LiehTzu t1_jddw3wn wrote
>HOA's, while annoying, are voluntary organizations
Voluntary? I wish.
BecomeABenefit t1_jddxz3j wrote
You weren't forced to sign the contract. You could have moved somewhere without an HOA. You also have voting rights in the HOA you voluntarily joined.
LiehTzu t1_jde1sns wrote
>You could have moved somewhere without an HOA
Yep, it's totally that easy, lol
BecomeABenefit t1_jdebqe9 wrote
Yes, you see, when the real-estate agent tries to show you a house with an HOA contract, you say "no thanks". If you're renting, you just don't consider houses in an HOA. HOA's are less than 27% of houses.
If you're living with your parents, move out.
LiehTzu t1_jdef1pt wrote
Man, you're so smart! Why didn't all those folks in HOAs simply not be in one!? If only geniuses like you ran the world, we'd all be so much better off. Thank you for your service!
BecomeABenefit t1_jdeqts1 wrote
Don't take this personally, but have you ever actually shopped for a house? I've done it 10+ times now and I've always had options that weren't HOA's. Some people actually prefer to be in one. I've had both good and bad experiences with them. Of the three houses I've actually purchased, only two were in HOA's. In my current one, nobody every really shows up for the HOA meetings and pretty much anybody who wants to be president or on the board can do so with almost no opposition.
Skywalker601 t1_jdevmdi wrote
I'd just like to point out that "pretty much anybody who wants to be president or on the board can do so with almost no opposition." is the unspoken preamble to every HOA horror story I've ever heard, and seems like a monkey's paw positive at best to me.
BecomeABenefit t1_jdex5nm wrote
Sure, it can be abused, but it's also easy to overturn someone that's doing something that people don't like. My HOA just swapped out the entire board and president because the residents didn't like the management company we hired because they were too stringent about writing infractions. Took a whole 20 people out of over 800 to vote the new board in.
In my experience, anybody who complains about their HOA is either too lazy to get involved and spend an hour a month to go to the meetings, or they're the kind of neighbor that nobody wants.
GhostofDownvotes t1_jdgdsca wrote
Life is not easy. Get over it.
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