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demilitarizdsm t1_jeeic2t wrote

Italy is going to be a crazy place to visit in 100 years if they just kick out every new tech like this.

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JustLTU t1_jeekbct wrote

Replying to demilitarizdsm (#2,527,374)

This ban has nothing to do with AI as a technology, and nothing to do with AI at all. This is a temporary ban because openAI, as a company, does not handle users private data (the data it collects from users who are using chatgpt, not the AI training data) in a GDPR compliant way.

They also broke GDPR in regards to informing users what personal data of theirs was impacted in a security breach that openAI had recently.

While Italy is more aggressive in chasing down GDPR violations than most other EU countries, openAI should get their data handling into compliance, because the current product they sell (and by product, I once again am not talking about the AI model itself, but the chatgpt platform through which registered users can use it), is technically breaking the law EU-wide.

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almcchesney t1_jeemsb1 wrote

Replying to JustLTU (#2,528,070)

Oh man I can see this getting expensive for them

> For especially severe violations, listed in Art. 83(5) GDPR, the fine framework can be up to 20 million euros, or in the case of an undertaking, up to 4 % of their total global turnover of the preceding fiscal year, whichever is higher.

https://gdpr-info.eu/issues/fines-penalties/#:~:text=For%20especially%20severe%20violations%2C%20listed,fiscal%20year%2C%20whichever%20is%20higher.

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Mrpoussin t1_jeexspr wrote

If my country banned chatgpt I d be very mad . This tool has changed my problem solving philosophy at work and in life for the better

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[deleted] t1_jeezadr wrote

Good. GDPR must be taken seriously, the ban won't last long if OpenAI complies.

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[deleted] t1_jef25da wrote

Replying to Mrpoussin (#2,533,232)

The ban is temporary and it's normal for a website that doesn't adhere to GDPR. It has nothing to do eith GPT, or the technology itself.

ChatGPt can make your life better without raping your privacy and leaking your payment infos.

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probono105 t1_jef887l wrote

i wonder why they didnt put more effort into scaling and security beforehand like how would they not think that many people would want to use it

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Ill_Mark_3330 t1_jefjeqv wrote

Replying to [deleted] (#2,539,340)

I’m curious, where did you go? Northern Italy is just as economically advanced as the rest of Western Europe - not to say that the South is bad, Palermo is an amazing place for example. Have you ever been to Positano?

In terms of tourism it is also the most visited country in Europe, I wonder why you had such a bad experience considering how many wonderful things Italy has to offer, from food, people, wine, architecture, history, nightlife, nature…

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No-Attempt-161 t1_jeftxou wrote

Their choice. The real question is will openAI care in the end? I mean it their citizens want the tool the work around is probably quite easy as we see in China.

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flyswithdragons t1_jefvyiw wrote

I understand why but this is unlikely to help Italy ..

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Educational-Ice-319 t1_jefw6dy wrote

Replying to DrQuantum (#2,543,525)

Not necessarily. COPPA has no such requirement, for example. Instead, it applies if you know or reasonably suspect a child under a specific age could or is using the platform. It’s sort of a “don’t ask don’t tell” dilemma here.

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EclecticKant t1_jeg1xl5 wrote

Replying to Educational-Ice-319 (#2,531,277)

It sounds crazy because it's not what it's being asked of openAI, the regulator complain that openAI hasn't put anything in place to check if the user is a minor, which is a reasonable complaint. They are not asking openAI to collect more data for the sake of it, but to refuse access to minors

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diablocanada t1_jegbyx2 wrote

What a joke Italia. The number one steal of your data is your own government American Canadian British constantly they breached their own Constitution. Canada cuz Mr potato Head challenge everybody to his dictatorship just like the truckers when he said they were racist and terrorists we find out had nothing to do with anything but him in power. Number two the Americans using the CIA the FBI a Homeland security to silence their own people cuz they spoke up against them. Brett just treats everybody like an idiot and collect their data. I love chat GDP AI rocks. They just want this gone because the challenges their authority. Because AIS have no feelings it is logical. And today is science politicians is all about feelings and I've already heard them call AI is racist sexes so what the hell is wrong withs people.

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dirtymac12 t1_jege910 wrote

Feels like Italy is insecure of the future. Let’s make it confident through vpn (:

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maru11 t1_jegodpu wrote

Replying to Limp_the_Pimp_ (#2,549,208)

> The General Data Protection Regulation (GDPR) is the toughest privacy and security law in the world. Though it was drafted and passed by the European Union (EU), it imposes obligations onto organizations anywhere, so long as they target or collect data related to people in the EU. The regulation was put into effect on May 25, 2018. The GDPR will levy harsh fines against those who violate its privacy and security standards, with penalties reaching into the tens of millions of euros.

https://gdpr.eu/what-is-gdpr/

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Educational-Ice-319 t1_jeh4rgr wrote

Replying to MornwindShoma (#2,560,505)

Lmfao. Nice job, let’s read the whole thing shall we?

> Processing shall be lawful only if and to the extent that at least one of the following applies:

> the data subject has given consent to the processing of his or her personal data for one or more specific purposes;

> processing is necessary for the performance of a contract to which the data subject is party or in order to take steps at the request of the data subject prior to entering into a contract;

> processing is necessary for compliance with a legal obligation to which the controller is subject; processing is necessary in order to protect the vital interests of the data subject or of another natural person;

> processing is necessary for the performance of a task carried out in the public interest or in the exercise of official authority vested in the controller; processing is necessary for the purposes of the legitimate interests pursued by the controller or by a third party, except where such interests are overridden by the interests or fundamental rights and freedoms of the data subject which require protection of personal data, in particular where the data subject is a child.

> Where point (a) of Article 6(1) applies, in relation to the offer of information society services directly to a child, the processing of the personal data of a child shall be lawful where the child is at least 16 years old.

> 2Where the child is below the age of 16 years, such processing shall be lawful only if and to the extent that consent is given or authorised by the holder of parental responsibility over the child.

> 3Member States may provide by law for a lower age for those purposes provided that such lower age is not below 13 years.

Taken together, the company is only requires to get consent if 1) it processes the information, and 2) it is directly done for services direct to children.

So no mandatory consent or age verification across the board. You wanna try again bud?

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