Submitted by Sorin61 t3_ygatlo in technology
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SpaceTabs t1_iu8rvyf wrote
This isn't about 5G. 5G is acquired by carriers. This is about network cards, switches, routers, cameras... It isn't being checked at purchase and it isn't being measured/assessed in the infrastructure.
"Between 2015 and 2021, at least 1,681 state and local governments purchased equipment and services tied to the five companies named in Section 889. Every state except Vermont had at least one state or local government entity procure ICTS covered under Section 889 (there were also no purchases in Washington, D.C.).
"Collectively, these entities conducted nearly 5,700 transactions involving a wide range of covered equipment including but not limited to smartphones, surveillance cameras, temperature scanners, handheld radios, and networking equipment. Figures 1 and 2 show the total number and value of government transactions that involved equipment from Huawei, ZTE, Hikvision, Dahua, and Hytera in each state. Our analysis relies on data provided by GovSpend, a company that tracks federal, state, and local government procurement"
Explorer335 t1_iu9ecft wrote
Huawei, Hikvision, and Dahua gear are really prevalent in my field. The prices are so low on some of the stuff that I swear they must be subsidizing it somewhere. I know those cameras check in with a server in China periodically, and some of them have facial recognition. I'm curious about what all they can do.
LoserAntics t1_iu9tuzv wrote
Slave labour and child labour don’t cost much.
kungpeleee t1_iubwj6f wrote
Talking about murica or China?
misfitx t1_iub4xko wrote
The subsidy is the data is the real price.
Angelworks42 t1_iub081s wrote
You know one big issue right now is there's a serious shortage of network hardware.
We've been waiting almost 2 years on an order from Cisco :(.
SirAidandRinglocks t1_iu8ihp9 wrote
Why should I be more afraid of the Chinese than the FBI?
musofiko t1_iu7wj2r wrote
What is it a Winnie the Pooh lunch box?
FieldMarchalQ t1_iu8wak6 wrote
Nsa is afraid their own backdoor software won’t work on Chinese equipment 🎈
LoserAntics t1_iu9u0hi wrote
The NSA is just concerned that it will ask for a TikTok login instead of Facebook on the next update.
Aviator-Moe1967 t1_iugm6z0 wrote
When are government employees going to be held accountable? Lose their jobs? If there is no consequences for their inaction…..
Independent_Pear_429 t1_iu86nuu wrote
It's hilarious just how weak the US federal government is sometimes
jphamlore t1_iu88kbk wrote
But I thought China was a technological backwater? How can it be that China has technology superior to what the US can produce?
DiggoryDug t1_iu8deg3 wrote
Not superior. Just cheap because they did not have to pay for the R&D. They just stole the technology from other countries.
wiphand t1_iu8doba wrote
R&D, safety, precautions and quality assurance.
TeaKingMac t1_iubj68l wrote
>They just stole the technology from other countries.
Nah, US manufacturers gave them the technology in exchange for cheap labor.
At the very least, gave them access to the technology
0wed12 t1_iu8m0c5 wrote
They are already superior in some techs like 5G, IA, biotechs and quantum computing.
People are coping if they think most of their technology is still just a 'copy' of american technology when even the US have not discovered it yet.
EDIT : Downvoting because it goes against your preconceived narrative won't change the facts btw.
AlanzAlda t1_iu9g5u8 wrote
The metrics cited, namely spending and number of papers submitted, do not necessarily mean they are "superior".. it means they are spending more and have more researchers working on it.
Quantity is not the same as quality.
0wed12 t1_iu9ngab wrote
Except it's not just number of research papers, but also the most cited papers through international systematic reviews or academic journals which is a good metric for quality.
https://www.science.org/content/article/china-rises-first-place-most-cited-papers
AlanzAlda t1_iu9ra8u wrote
From the top of that article.. "Other methods to gauge scientific prowess still put the United States somewhat ahead"
This does not imply your original statement of Chinese research superiority.
Medical_Officer t1_iu9j2u5 wrote
Right... That must be why Huawei led the world in 5G. The Chinese time traveled to steal the tech from future Americans.
After all, we all know that the Chinese aren't great at math engineering or tech.
bastardchucker t1_iu8jr0n wrote
Most of China tech is copied. Huawei even got so sloppy, they got caught with stolen Cisco code copied 1:1, not even refactored or rewritten to hide it.
duffmanhb t1_iu9h7yw wrote
The USA can produce it. The companies were found to be selling it under cost, which made no sense. Then found the pattern that all these below cost units were being placed near secured military and energy installations.
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A_Gent_4Tseven t1_iu9ldmo wrote
Just because a country might not be “superior” in an industry, doesn’t make them any less of a possible security issue… if they know how to use what tech they have and can still inflict the damage they do(can do). They aren’t fucking dumb, Chinese hackers are up there on the US list of constant threats. Which means they’re good at their jobs.
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Explorer335 t1_iu7yfhv wrote
If the NSA is going public to say this is a threat, it's a BIG problem. That 5G hardware can communicate on huge swaths of the electromagnetic spectrum (far beyond its rating), and those towers have serious power behind them. Imagine a Chinese SIGINT network spanning the entire United States. What could possibly go wrong?