thatfreshjive t1_iu58226 wrote on October 28, 2022 at 5:14 PM

See, that's the difference between our politics. I say the right is antisemitic, and you are personally insulted. I didn't call you antisemitic, I called the party you support antisemitic.

Conservatives seem to believe that all criticism of their party, is a personal attack - and that's the purpose of propaganda.

I don't give a shit about the democratic party, I just the smartest, and least evil, politicians in office.

Trgdor32 t1_iu58g50 wrote on October 28, 2022 at 5:16 PM

The left is constantly shitting on rightwingers on a personal level. Dont give me that shit.

harrybalsania t1_iu5d094 wrote on October 28, 2022 at 5:47 PM

Good. Suck it up and consume the rhetoric you were fed.

thatfreshjive t1_iu5qd7v wrote on October 28, 2022 at 7:17 PM

Well, of course we're shitting on you - you want to take away freedom from people you disagree with. But we don't actively hate you. The left doesn't gloat about hurting people who are different.

thatfreshjive t1_iu5sll7 wrote on October 28, 2022 at 7:32 PM

If you cared about values, you wouldn't have voted for Trump. You care about sticking to people you've never met, because Tucker Carlson said "They think you're better than you! They're trying take away your way of life!"

That's a lie. You are being manipulated. If you were really a Christian, you would want a better life for strangers. But you aren't

Miora t1_iu864ny wrote on October 29, 2022 at 8:45 AM

Rightly so. You guys are kinda fucked up.

moosemasher t1_iu57byw wrote on October 28, 2022 at 5:09 PM

Sure ain't the left claiming him, or chiming in with extra antisemitism to add to his.

Trgdor32 t1_iu57vlj wrote on October 28, 2022 at 5:13 PM

A small group of extremists doesnt speak for the entire right.

moosemasher t1_iu59625 wrote on October 28, 2022 at 5:21 PM

The entire right certainly seems to have a problem getting rid of the 'small' group of extremists.

Tristanna t1_iu5gte4 wrote on October 28, 2022 at 6:12 PM

They do speak for the entire right because the leadership does not active condemn, censure or otherwise shun them.

Miora t1_iu8631o wrote on October 29, 2022 at 8:44 AM

Oh, so we're lying today?

roox911 t1_iu57ao4 wrote on October 28, 2022 at 5:09 PM

You're correct. Some are anti black, anti brown, anti woman, anti immigrant, anti LGBT. But let's be honest here, the majority are at least "anti-one of those things".

Trgdor32 t1_iu57m50 wrote on October 28, 2022 at 5:11 PM

If this is what you think then you havent been in an actual rightwing community before. When all you see is the extremists then naturally this is your conclusion.

thatfreshjive t1_iu58yc3 wrote on October 28, 2022 at 5:20 PM

ROFL - it isn't a clue to you that conservatives need a separate community to discuss their thoughts?

You snowflakes isolate yourselves from anyone who disagrees. There are no "left-wing" communities, because politics aren't our identity.

Trgdor32 t1_iu599r5 wrote on October 28, 2022 at 5:22 PM

And yet here you are defending the left like your life depends on it....

thatfreshjive t1_iu5dgvp wrote on October 28, 2022 at 5:50 PM

Nope, it's just always interesting to talk to conservatives. They never want to contribute anything of substance to a conversation, just complain.

xavis t1_iu58a3y wrote on October 28, 2022 at 5:15 PM

considering the party is 100% behind trump, the definition of extremist, i think hes right. unless you kick trump out of your party, im inclined to include you in that category too.

roox911 t1_iu594fl wrote on October 28, 2022 at 5:21 PM

Bingo. They drop Trump (and his politics/ political style) and I'll consider them to be a (distasteful) alternative party again.

Trgdor32 t1_iu58u6x wrote on October 28, 2022 at 5:19 PM

It always comes back to Trump. I liked a lot of what he did and disagreed with some of what he did too. No I wont outright renounce him but then thats just it. No president is perfect. Should I be saying you have to renounce Obama or youre an extremist?

xavis t1_iu5a7u2 wrote on October 28, 2022 at 5:28 PM

if obama started a coup as a childish temper trantrum because he lost an election, then sure.

Trgdor32 t1_iu5bhb8 wrote on October 28, 2022 at 5:36 PM

Huge groups of left winger outright rioted for 6 months straight that summer...rioted. like deaths and fires galore kind of rioted. Literal burning people alive and chucking bricks at cops kind of rioted. 6 months of that.

1 out of control group doesnt make it a coup regardless of all the shit politicians trying their hardest to call it that.

xavis t1_iu5h418 wrote on October 28, 2022 at 6:14 PM

>Huge groups of left winger outright rioted for 6 months straight that summer...rioted. like deaths and fires galore kind of rioted. Literal burning people alive and chucking bricks at cops kind of rioted. 6 months of that.

>1 out of control group doesnt make it a coup regardless of all the shit politicians trying their hardest to call it that.

well thanks for making my point for me, good own goal there.

Vogelsten t1_iub04pc wrote on October 29, 2022 at 11:06 PM

The vast majority of anything that could be considered a riot was committed by right wing agent provocateurs. You are believing hyperbolic nonsense from known and proven propagandists because it agrees with the victim complex that the right wing has perpetuated.

roox911 t1_iu58wrv wrote on October 28, 2022 at 5:19 PM

I live in rural Florida... in a county that voted over 75% conservative. I have 8 DeSantis and Trump flags between my 3 neighbors houses. And over a dozen on my block of 8 houses. I am literally in the epicenter of right wing community.

Trgdor32 t1_iu59614 wrote on October 28, 2022 at 5:21 PM

Youre in the epicenter of 1 of many right wing communities. Go visit utah and youll get a vastly different vibe from them. Its the same difference between cali dems and colorado dems.

roox911 t1_iu5a12a wrote on October 28, 2022 at 5:27 PM

Before this I lived in Arkansas. More of the same. Before that was Vancouver, Washington, more of the same.

Are all cons bad people? Nope. Does it pull in a massive swath of racist garbage human beings? Yup. and if you're still a conservative after Trump and all that has happened... well, good luck getting me or anyone to belive you're not on the same side as the bad ones at this stage.

Trgdor32 t1_iu5aap3 wrote on October 28, 2022 at 5:28 PM

Are you sure what you heard was actual racism? I get told by left wingers that Im somehow racist if I say illegal immigration is out of control.

Guess Im asking whats your baseline for calling someone racist?

roox911 t1_iu5bsor wrote on October 28, 2022 at 5:38 PM

You're right.. I'm probably to stupid to understand the difference between racism and nuanced political debate.

Actual racism is pretty easy to spot mate. As is ignorance, and blind adherence to a party that invites and welcomes racists

le1mmortal t1_iu5afxl wrote on October 28, 2022 at 5:29 PM

Dude I grew up in utah it’s not any different; from the suburbs where people keep their racism more polite and secretive to the rural areas where you’ll get shot at for having a Black Lives Matter sticker on your car

dlev_ t1_iu5i21t wrote on October 28, 2022 at 6:21 PM

Bro what rock have you lived under the last 10 years

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