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wicodly t1_it2qbdw wrote

>“From a Google perspective, we think every Android user should just have messaging over Wi-Fi,” she said.

This is getting old now. You have the market share. Worry about Android(google, Samsung, LG, etc) stop focusing on Apple. Ensure every android user can then move on

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[deleted] t1_it2lgbv wrote

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Clegko t1_it2zvwm wrote

RCS is a cellular industry standard that is meant to replace SMS, as every SMS message is sent in clear text over the air.

The fact that Apple doesn't support it is fucking stupid, regardless of any other selfish reason on Apple's side.

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IcyButters t1_it2ywe6 wrote

Whenever this topic comes up in the tech media or in tech subs, people act as if the interaction between iMessage and SMS is some kind of massive, ongoing problem for everyone who has to communicate with both iOS and Android users. And it's just not. It works 100% perfectly fine for me with the exception of group chats, which aren't nearly as problematic as people claim, and which aren't relevant to me anyway because all my group chats are in other apps (mainly Signal). I don't think I'm unique in this regard, either.

If Google wants iPhone users to clamor for Apple to add RCS support, then Google first needs to come up with an absolutely perfect RCS deployment, and they're nowhere near that stage yet. Then they need to express to iPhone users what value add RCS provides, and they have not done that yet. Because again, this is not actually a day-to-day problem for the vast majority of users.

And RCS alone does nothing for me. Being able to have to an iMessage-like experience with Android users would be neat, I guess? But that's barely something I'd use, and I'm still going to prefer Signal anyway. What I would be really excited about is a truly standardized industry-wide messaging platform that meant you could use any client you want and securely interact with anyone else on any client of their choice, but that's not even remotely what RCS is at this stage, so I just don't strongly care about it. It's very much in the "nice to have" category.

Also, these assumptions always rely on one side pretending that people on the other side chose their phone for any reason other than that they genuinely like it. Fanboys are always claiming that iPhone users deal with constant issues that they ignore because they think they look cooler or whatever using an iPhone. And it's just not even remotely true.

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frickindeal t1_it3k197 wrote

And who trusts Google to stick with whatever implementation they come up with anyway? In a year it'll be "we're eliminating RCS support" or downsizing the team or rolling it into yet another messaging system. Google has shown that if you fall in love with any software they are a part of, they'll drop it eventually.

> Fanboys are always claiming that iPhone users deal with constant issues that they ignore

I hear this all the time, and agreed, most of us really don't care or even notice the issues they always seem to be talking about.

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IcyButters t1_it77cu7 wrote

>I hear this all the time, and agreed, most of us really don't care or even notice the issues they always seem to be talking about.

A fan simply prefers one phone more than the other. A fanboy decrees that the phone they prefer is objectively better than other types of phones. The fanboy, faced with the fact that millions of people seem to prefer a phone he claims is objectively worse, is thus forced to explain this disconnect. And what they typically resort to is, "You know your phone is bad and you just ignore because you view it as a status symbol."

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Typical-Ad-6042 t1_it3xxdg wrote

I don’t think people realize that last point enough.

Apple users just don’t care.

It doesn’t even get unanimous support on the subreddit, which is already a niche subset of all iPhone users.

If users don’t care, there is no incentive for apple to implement it.

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