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wizardstrikes2 t1_itn9b76 wrote

Reply to comment by Sushrit_Lawliet in USB-C iPhone will be mandatory in Europe as EU law passes final stage by prehistoric_knight

There is no such thing as wasting electricity. Electricity isn’t a resource.

This type of thinking is dangerous and propaganda

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DanielPhermous t1_itnifa6 wrote

> There is no such thing as wasting electricity.

If you use it up but don't use it, it's wasted.

> Electricity isn’t a resource.

Sure, if you like.

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wizardstrikes2 t1_itnioie wrote

You are wasting money, not electricity.

It isn’t what I like, it is science. Electricity is a secondary energy source.

Thinking electricity is a resource is FUD and used as propaganda

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GreyGreenBrownOakova t1_itnmskh wrote

Yeah. For accuracy, people need to say "stop wasting 31% coal, 5% solar, 36% natural gas, 1% hydro....wait, let me check the solar irradiance..."

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wizardstrikes2 t1_itnopks wrote

There is no accuracy in the propaganda of “wasting electricity” so I would just say nothing lol

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GreyGreenBrownOakova t1_itorb4h wrote

It's wasting electricity, because it's something that has to be generated.

I don't think you understand what propaganda means. Hint, it's not just something you don't agree with.

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wizardstrikes2 t1_itorjty wrote

Yes it has to be generated so people have unlimited near zero carbon electricity. Generation IIi+ nuclear solves the energy crisis. Restriction is stupid and in the US unconstitutional.

Canada, USA, Japan, and South Korea are all bringing small modular reactors to solve the manmade energy crisis. Canada will be online in 2028

If you don’t think the manmade energy crisis is propaganda I would recommend ya do some research.

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GreyGreenBrownOakova t1_itos60j wrote

After we have free electricity, we can waste it. Right now, my electricity comes from coal.

> Restriction is stupid and in the US unconstitutional.

LOL. which section would that be under? The one where you get free stuff?

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wizardstrikes2 t1_itosltd wrote

I would elect officials that want generation III+ nuclear, solar, wind electricity. Do you know who has unlimited near zero carbon electricity, Everyone near a nuclear power plant….. electricity shouldn’t be free ever, it should be unlimited, safe, and near zero carbon. Many places already have it!

Sorry the people running your city governments/states/countries are corrupt and have brainwashed people thinking that restricting usage is the solution. Don’t vote for those people.

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GreyGreenBrownOakova t1_itot0wi wrote

>I would elect officials

your talking about the distant future, we are talking about the present.

>have brainwashed people thinking that restricting usage is the solution.

there is zero restrictions in my state. You can purchase as much as you want, destroying the environment in the process. Your entire theory is based on what-ifs and misconceptions.

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wizardstrikes2 t1_itotgou wrote

I am talking now. There are 98 nuclear reactors in 30 U.S. states. Not a single city or adjacent cities that have kept up their grids have a manmade electricity crisis.

Your house is restricted by local code to only allow a certain amount of electricity. Most (not all) cap you around 400amp to 800amp without a commercial license.

Your town is awesome, with no electricity restrictions, now you guys need to get off coal because you are wasting it and your city is ruining the environment.

We are near zero carbon electricity, we don’t need restrictions as it has never been a consumer issue, your elected officials have failed you for decades.

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GreyGreenBrownOakova t1_itoztx4 wrote

It's a story about the EU, but as a typical American, you have to make it all about you.

>Your house is restricted by local code to only allow a certain amount of electricity.

not true.

>without a commercial license.

no such thing here. Commercial business get a discount for higher usage.

>now you guys need to get off coal because you are wasting it and your city is ruining the environment.

yes, we are. Things take time. In the meantime, we need to avoid wasting electricity.

>We are near zero carbon electricity

not even remotely true.

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wizardstrikes2 t1_itp2414 wrote

100% true lol. We have nuclear, hydroelectric, and solar.

Sorry some places don’t have nuclear, you guys are destroying the planet. You are wasting coal, not electricity.

Funny how you edit the responses. Hard to argue with a propagandist.

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GreyGreenBrownOakova t1_itseobf wrote

nothing you have said is remotely true. The world still uses fossil fuels and needs to avoid wasting electricity.

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wizardstrikes2 t1_itsnz7j wrote

The entire world doesn’t use fossil fuels for making electricity, stupid humans do, and only in certain areas run by stupid elected officials.

There is no such thing as wasting electricity. Fix the manmade grid and production crisis your local area is facing. It is your elected officials fault and is not the fault of consumers .

That is propaganda. Stop telling near zero carbon electric customers how to use electricity because your city is run poorly.

The world is full of Karen’s, these Karen’s need to focus on their own electricity manmade crisis before telling other people how to use theirs who aren’t facing an electricity crisis at all.

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GreyGreenBrownOakova t1_itspggq wrote

Electricity is part of a grid and most grids use some form of fossil fuel. We need to stop wasting electricity, so we reduce CO2 emissions. Only an idiot can't understand this.

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wizardstrikes2 t1_itspqr9 wrote

Nobody owns electricity. Your area uses fossil fuels, that is a local problem, not a global consumer problem.

Again there are tons of near zero carbon users with nuclear, solar, wind and hydroelectric. Stop telling others how to use electricity and fix your local manmade crisis

If you care about the environment start voting for people who promote Generation III+ nuclear

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wizardstrikes2 t1_itt1lvk wrote

Electricity is generated by utilities. Utilities are regulated by governments. If you don’t have nuclear it is your governments fault, not the utility or the consumers

We don’t have basements in any of our homes.

People have the right to use as much near zero carbon electricity as they wish or can afford.

Telling people to hold their farts to save the environment is about as stupid as telling someone to restrict electricity usage. Nothing in life is free

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DanielPhermous t1_itnmy1z wrote

> You are wasting money, not electricity.

I have solar.

>It isn’t what I like, it is science

Okay. Could I have a scientific source that you cannot waste electricity, please?

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wizardstrikes2 t1_itno41b wrote

Solar isn’t free.

The source is common sense. Your city should provide you with however much you need or can afford of near zero carbon electricity.

Electricity is a fundamental human right. It isn’t something that can be controlled and dictated on proper use by Karen’s or governments

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DanielPhermous t1_itntfv2 wrote

> Solar isn’t free.

It finished paying for itself two years ago.

>The source is common sense.

Ah, so no scientific source for your purported scientific claim.

>Electricity is a fundamental human right.

Sounds like you're just inventing bullshit on the fly now. Do you have a source for this one? Because I have several that contradict you.

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wizardstrikes2 t1_itnu6q6 wrote

I promise electricity is a secondary energy source. Calling it a resource is FUD. https://www.eia.gov/energyexplained/electricity/

Also bullshit on your 2 year ROI on solar lol. Is food a fundamental right? Well unless you are heavily tax subsidized by your neighbors taxes). How about freedom of speech?

You don’t need a link, common sense should tell you near zero carbon electricity is a fundamental right for every human on earth.

Though the United Nations is garbage, they have a good starting elementary list of 30. Most credible people would say minimum 50. UN isn’t smart though

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DanielPhermous t1_itnvbnz wrote

>I promise electricity is a secondary energy source. Calling it a resource is FUD.

There are quite a few problems with that.

One: Your source doesn't say it's not a resource. It only says it is a secondary energy source. There is nothing to say those terms are mutually exclusive.

Two: Secondary energy sources include petroleum. Are you arguing that petroleum is not a resource?

Three: I asked for a source that electricity cannot be wasted. That is the core argument here. Do you have one or not?

> Also bullshit on your 2 year ROI on solar lol.

I didn't say it took two years. I said it finished two years ago. Judging by your tactics so far, I would expect that is a deliberate misinterpretation so you can avoid the uncomfortable point that you have no answer for: that my electricity is currently free.

>You don’t need a link, common sense should...

You say that a lot. For the record, I agree it should be. However, I don't agree that it is.

So: Source?

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wizardstrikes2 t1_itor39d wrote

Here let me explain the difference. Secondary energy source means a usable energy source, the energy potential of which arises as a by-product of energy conversion and end consumption upon release from resources. Natural resources are materials or substances such as minerals, oil, heavy metals like uranium, wood, water, that occur in nature and can be used for economic gain. It is apparent you didn’t know the difference.

Saying wasting electricity is intellectually disingenuous. If you don’t know why at this point can’t help ya

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DanielPhermous t1_itosmf6 wrote

>If you don’t know why at this point can’t help ya

Yes, clearly you are having quite the difficulty finding a source to back up your claims. Weird. You would expect scientific topics would be better documented.

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wizardstrikes2 t1_itoswan wrote

I claimed that electricity is a second energy source and not a resource. Again if you can’t figure out the difference, even when given the definition, you don’t get it heheh.

Electricity isn’t a resource lol, you can’t waste it. You can either use it or not use it.

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DanielPhermous t1_itot5ox wrote

Huh. Still no sources. I'm going to shut down inbox replies now. You may get in the last word if you like, but I will not be notified and will not return to read it.

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