Submitted by tyw7 t3_xwjsst in technology
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Barouq01 t1_ir77fi6 wrote
USB-Deez nuts
fjwoahco19_ t1_ir7w0v3 wrote
A reminder that if you don't want a non USB C device, all you have to do is just not buy it
Total overreach but it's overreach that is popular so no-one bats an eye. No principles at all.
satinygorilla t1_ir7wpky wrote
In all seriousness who decides when the standard needs to change?
IAmTheKingOfSpain t1_ir80037 wrote
I feel like laws like this should be written with an expiry. Say, 5 or 10 years. And then you can see what the market does and reintroduce legislation if it goes poorly? Maybe this is idealistic, but would be cool
MrApplejuic t1_ir809cl wrote
Well it’s not an iPhone so yeah there is nothing with a usb c cable out there….. /s
THENATHE t1_ir81hra wrote
I am not sure of the validity of this, but a user in another thread says that the laws are all actually based around whatever standard the IEEE sets, which is currently C. And once they change (in no shorter of a time than 3-5 years depending) then there is a 3 year adjustment period for whatever they declare the next standard.
BasilExposition75 t1_ir82rz9 wrote
Apple submits the lightning as USB-D
GarbanzoBenne t1_ir86yut wrote
Imagine if they mandated micro USB when lightening was new. Yuck.
Just because it's now reasonable from a technical perspective to use USB-C for everything, that doesn't mean making this a legal issue is the right way.
Tall_Artist_8905 t1_ir88ly5 wrote
What about laptop power chargers ? The same manufacturers make diff chargers for diff laptops. HP , Dell etc.,
vtomal t1_ir89808 wrote
>phones, tablets and cameras
There is your answer.
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IAmTheKingOfSpain t1_ir8mc4d wrote
What do you mean by "it goes poorly"? Having a new standard that emerges after the law expires seems like an acceptable outcome.
redditmudder t1_ir8zidx wrote
Or have no connector at all (i.e. wireless charging is still allowed).
buttymuncher t1_ir95k9r wrote
Yeah fuck you Apple
jazztaprazzta t1_ir97as6 wrote
It's a shame that Apple will be FORCED to use the Android port. I hope Apple brings back the Lightning port to iPads and just quits the EU market. I want us Apple users to continue to be different, special and just... overall better. ^/s
WinterNL t1_ir9cccx wrote
https://www.engadget.com/eu-usb-c-port-charging-requirement-approved-141546579.html
>Laptops will need to make the switch by spring 2026.
WinterNL t1_ir9colm wrote
Would probably cause more issues than it solves. It's slower and horribly inefficient.
On top of that, wireless charging has already been explicitely mentioned as something that could also be standardised (this is from the directive itself): >It is also necessary to provide the basis for adaptation to any future scientific and technological progress or market developments, which will be continuously monitored by the Commission. In particular, the introduction of harmonisation of the charging interfaces and the charging communication protocols should in the future also be considered with respect to radio equipment that could be charged by any means other than wired charging, including charging by means of radio waves (wireless charging).
MrTidels t1_ir9diav wrote
This is what I’m thinking. There’s a chance Apple may go entirely to wireless charging instead of going to usb c
redditmudder t1_ir9htfk wrote
Why the downvotes?
This is almost certainly what is going to happen.
Amckinstry t1_ir9k1tg wrote
The EU basically said to Industry "standardize, or we'll force a standard".
It was up to the industry to propose the best standard and a potential track for evolution. Apple mostly stayed away as the rest of the industry clustered around USB (-C), so the EU has now forced a standard around USB (-C).
There is still scope for changes in the future -- see changes on power, data rates as long as the form-factor is maintained, but yes, it'll be up to $INDUSTRY to propose changes in regulation before adapters can be changed in the future.
Deimos_F t1_ir9mchi wrote
Until some other "super special and unique" corporation decides to use a different cable to sell more of their own accessories and others follow suit and we get back to square one.
Had the whole industry played nice there would be no need for a law.
FineAunts t1_ir9pcom wrote
Doesn't that charge super slow?
tyw7 OP t1_ir9spzf wrote
There's tons of standards you don't know about but use. Like FAA, CAA, EASA. These applies to planes. Then there's for measurements, etc. You don't complain about that? Also the plugs in your house are all the same. Nobody says that's an over reach.
MrTidels t1_ir9v2o0 wrote
Maybe? Never used it myself. Cannot imagine it would be implemented as an option if it was slower than conventional charging though
FineAunts t1_ir9ytny wrote
Wireless charging on the iPhone is an option now and after some googling it "is still significantly slower than wired charging options."
Would be nice for some breakthrough to occur in the next two years but wireless charging had been around for 7+ years and not much has changed.
IAmTheKingOfSpain t1_iraf4ys wrote
Honestly, sounds pretty good to me
Moremedialies t1_irb760e wrote
About time, let’s standardise changing, then make it so these expensive devices have a shelf life of at least 7 years, instead of being forced to replace it every 2 or 3 yrs.
ProbablyInfamous t1_irbivnm wrote
>"Would probably cause more issues than it solves. [Wireless charging] is slower and horribly inefficient."
"Brilliant Work-Around to this silly little legal problem!"
—engineer F. T. R. Creep
mrturret t1_irpl8yy wrote
This law was passed specifically because of Apple refusing to use the standard that literally everyone else had already agreed upon.
h33b t1_ir7036e wrote
Time to introduce USB-D