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defcon_penguin t1_iu3j8zm wrote

The market will take care of them before 2030. Once cheaper batteries and more affordable EVs are available, no one is going to buy ICE cars anymore. They won't have any value on the market for used cars

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Tastypies t1_iu3th3y wrote

That's not entirely true. There will always be a market for sports car enthusiasts who want a lightweight car with an ICE, a manual gearbox and rear-wheel drive that can be modified with aftermarket parts. I know cause I'm one of them. If you don't believe me, look up the prices of old Supras, RX-7s and Skylines.

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defcon_penguin t1_iu5nbdo wrote

You know right that EV vehicles have much more acceleration and stability than ICEs right? Or is it just the noise that you like?

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Tastypies t1_iu62i9v wrote

It's about emotion, not logic nor numbers. There's something raw about ICE vehicles that EVs don't have. Btw I'm not against EVs, I think the shift towards EVs is good.

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u9Nails t1_iu3slz6 wrote

Cheaper batteries, I hope. But I fully expect lithium rich countries to look at this news with dollar symbols in their eyes.

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The_Countess t1_iu3oap8 wrote

I don't think it will go that fast. there will be a few challenges around charging at home or work being easier for some then others, and some niche cases were being able to refuel quickly is a significant advantage.

And some of the materials needed for batteries are also going up in price, offsetting some of the gains in battery tech.

Having said that yes, the transition is already starting and will be well under way before we hit 2035. But this legislation puts a dot on the horizon that the relevant industries can work towards (mainly the car industry, the grid and charging infrastructure builders)

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defcon_penguin t1_iu3oza4 wrote

Battery cost going up is a temporary situation due to the production not ramping up fast enough to meet demand. That should only last a couple of years. For people that can't park in a garage, a weekly fast charge should be enough, no one is doing more than 500km per week, at least in europe. Fast charging networks keep on improving and they are catching up quite fast. Recharging times are also going down continously, and I can imagine that in 8 years they should be at least half of the current best. Innovation in battery is going very fast

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optermationahesh t1_iu5e8v7 wrote

Not going to happen without a significantly improved charging infrastructure.

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