mclark9 t1_iue1205 wrote on October 30, 2022 at 4:53 PM

Reply to comment by leto78 in Ford and VW Abandon the Self-Driving Road to Nowhere. Big story that with little fanfare by newleafkratom

I disagree, there is not an ‘incremental improvements’ path from ADAS to FSD. From an engineering standpoint, they are two totally different problems.

leto78 t1_iue93vy wrote on October 30, 2022 at 5:47 PM

Personally, I don't think that they are completely different systems. From from ICE to BEV is definitely going from system to another completely different system, and hybrid systems are not really a transition path from a technological development. You cannot make ever greater improvements to ICE vehicles and get to BEV vehicles. You need a radical departure from one to the other.

As for ADAS and FSD, they rely on the same hardware, same technology, and same focus. The adaptive cruise control with lane keeping system is one narrow scope of the overall FSD. Of course, there is a huge technological leap that is required to reach FSD, but a progressive development is a direct path to FSD.

mclark9 t1_iuebrjz wrote on October 30, 2022 at 6:04 PM

Agree that there are technology overlaps, like sensing systems. But the difficult engineering problems like, mapping, decision making, stop and go interactions with other vehicles, etc. are not going to be solved by iterating ADAS technologies because they are not ADAS problems. Time will tell which of us is correct, I guess, because many of the ARGO people will be going to Ford to work on ADAS technologies.

UrbanGhost114 t1_iufi6g8 wrote on October 30, 2022 at 10:49 PM

The leap is really getting all that information from the various ADAS programs, and compiling them to make a correct decision with the AI (which doesn't even exist yet).

Right now, no system can make enough correct decisions with the information for anyone to feel like this is anywhere close to being ready for FSD at any stage, at least publicly (No idea what DARPA looks like with this kind of stuff).