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anonymousviewer112 t1_iya3216 wrote

Reply to comment by MiaowaraShiro in UK waters down internet rules plan after free speech outcry by Sorin61

Here are some examples:

"It's going to rain tomorrow" and it does not actually rain tomorrow making this a false statement.

"Black people commit the most crime" which is statistically true but mean spirited and borderline racist.

"Bill gates is an asshole" this is a matter of opinion but mean.

"Hilary Clinton is a slut" this is mean but how do you prove one way or another?

"There was election fraud" said by someone who was told this by someone else at a bar they frequent. do people need to site sources for what they believe to be true statement?

"I will smack the next guy who says pineapple on pizza is good". Threats of violence?

"I hate mexicans" mean spirited but are people allowed to dislike other groups or is that punishable?

"Donald Trump slapped me in 3rd grade" how do you disprove this?

No try sorting these types of things out for millions of messages a day everyday.

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MiaowaraShiro t1_iyac77i wrote

You don't remember me saying that the statement has to be false and harmful? You don't remember me telling you that the only one of those that would run afoul is the "There was election fraud" one? The others aren't even close and would easily pass a "reasonable person" test in court of law.

In the case of the election fraud one that's a literal documented piece of disinformation. It's literally called "The Big Lie". We know it's an intentional lie with the intent to cause harm. If you're so credulous that you can't identify that one I'm not sure what to tell you?

I would imagine these deliberations would run very similar to defamation, slander or libel cases, but instead of a single person being libeled, it's a whole category. If I say "Kill Bob", that's incitement to violence. If I say "Kill all Bobs" how is that not worse?

Instances on private websites would of course be mediated by private websites.

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