[deleted] t1_iyc7j89 wrote on November 30, 2022 at 8:47 AM

Reply to comment by Toolatetootired in Competitors chip away at Tesla's US electric vehicle share by Sorin61

The other car makers have been shilling this site to death since Tesla broke records on the stock market. I don’t care for anything negative posted about Tesla when the vast majority of EV makers aren’t remotely competitive or competent in their offerings.

heyimjason t1_iyd0zw6 wrote on November 30, 2022 at 2:25 PM

A lot of folks will look at any criticism of Tesla and immediately scream, "SHILL!"

I don't have any skin in the game - I sold all of my auto stocks a while ago - but I'll absolutely state my negative opinions about Tesla when it comes up because they're poorly made, overpriced, and Musk is an asshole.

[deleted] t1_iyd1oz8 wrote on November 30, 2022 at 2:30 PM

I might live in a different reality. But I see more teslas than ice cars OFTEN.. so yes they are too expensive but they are way more popular and appreciated than many want to give them credit for…

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heyimjason t1_iyd2613 wrote on November 30, 2022 at 2:34 PM

The genius of Tesla was that it offered EVs before anybody else took it seriously (and this was happening far before Musk ever came along).

But under Musk's leadership, all they had were unrealistic ambitions and empty promises. The quality started suffering. Deadlines weren't met. Blah blah blah.

The other manufacturers are slow to the game, but they're going to offer quality EVs for a hell of a lot less than Tesla does. I would even venture to say that it's not too late for Tesla to stay on top of the EV game, but it's not going to happen because Elon would ride a sinking ship all the way down before actually listening to the intelligent people who know how to run companies.

AlexB_SSBM t1_iydca3h wrote on November 30, 2022 at 3:46 PM

> I don’t care for anything negative posted about Tesla when the vast majority of EV makers aren’t remotely competitive or competent in their offerings.

Have you not been paying attention at all? The Hyundai Ioniq and Ford Lightning are both very clearly better cars, made from actually respected brands, for less money. How exactly can you say that Ford isn't competitive with Tesla when Ford is making cheaper vehicles of better quality?

FreshNoobAcc t1_iycda0m wrote on November 30, 2022 at 10:12 AM

I feel with the popularity of the sub, it is a given that each company will have shills in it

Business Insider for sure does, they are a tabloid and their articles always reach the top despite the content being typical tabloid content and only vaguely related to technology (more focused on people)