Submitted by Sorin61 t3_z5sa98 in technology
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flower4000 t1_ixxwnqt wrote
It probably takes more energy to cool it than it creates
turbo_nudist t1_ixxyjue wrote
this headline is written like they’re generating electricity from the flipping of a light switch on and off repeatedly lmao
CapAll55 t1_ixxylec wrote
All it would require to avoid the pure ammonia smell at the pump is an airtight connection between gas tank and pump nozzle. That’s an off-the-shelf part already, making these tanks would be straightforward. The greater challenge would be designing a car-sized hydrogen engine of comparable power output. I’m no thermo expert, but this seems possible if the transference of ammonia to hydrogen can be quick enough to feed the engine as much H as it needs.
This can genuinely happen if it can be profitable. And that’s the kicker, it’s gotta be as profitable as gas or more.
GXSigma t1_ixxz503 wrote
I was going to say it sounds like they just turned on a green light. There you go, the petroleum is now green fuel.
pickleer t1_ixxz5uw wrote
Using an LED in the car to crack the H from the ammonia is what makes this novel.
Longjumping-Still434 t1_ixxzroi wrote
And hope that oil companies don't "get rid of" the competition.
Famous-Somewhere9191 t1_ixyao3c wrote
Toddler logic, but efficient.
onewaytojupiter t1_ixyg5pv wrote
It does, hydrogen is already very inefficient as an energy source..
almost_not_terrible t1_ixyh78i wrote
Stop trying to make hydrogen fuel a thing.
It isn't, and never will be.
CartmansEvilTwin t1_ixyi61n wrote
What's being discussed in Germany is using ammonia as a kind of hydrogen carrier substance for long haul transport and storage. For example from Africa to Germany or as storage medium over the seasons.
The reasoning is, that ammonia is much easier to work with them ammonia.
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Enginerdiest t1_ixyuu61 wrote
* than hydrogen
FTFY
Alan_Smithee_ t1_ixzoz5h wrote
If you’ve smelled pure ammonia, you’re probably dead.
But it actually shows some promise as fuel: good energy density, easy to transport and store, unlike hydrogen.
Most ICEs and fuel cells will run on it.
Alan_Smithee_ t1_ixzp3f1 wrote
It would have to be a sealed system like LPG; ammonia fumes are lethal.
almost_not_terrible t1_ixzqnx2 wrote
Sorry, what?
MoTheSoleSeller t1_ixzw7z9 wrote
Eh could be, imo with all the people and money we've got, might aswell throw some r/d torwards it. Many more people have likely wasted much more money
CapAll55 t1_iy06x5a wrote
Yeah absolutely, which happened with electric cars in the 90s. If todays EV push is any indication thought, with enough persistence and acceptance even big oil has to get on board or be left behind.
grabman t1_iy0g59w wrote
Yes, in high school chemistry lab accidentally took a sniff. Not a pleasant experience
Darnocpdx t1_iy1bwq2 wrote
Nope, it's processing and dustribution is just as inefficient as oil, which is why EVs will dominate and why its taking down oil, nothing compares to a wire (already existing in most cases) and a plug.
DENelson83 t1_iy1wked wrote
Big Oil will suppress it.
BasvanS t1_iy2bfx7 wrote
It will be. For static applications that use excess solar energy. Once you have to move it, it’s basically over. And if you want to put it in a car, you don’t understand the physics of it, but probably like snacks from the petrol station.
codes4242 t1_ixxwb72 wrote
So they found a way to create hydrogen fuel from ammonia at a low temperature. That's cool and all, but I can't imagine ammonia as being a realistic thing to fill car gas tanks with as a starting precursor for liquid hydrogen. Anyone who has smelled pure ammonia would know why I say that.