Submitted by marketrent t3_yzqzbx in technology
aquarain t1_ix1wxro wrote
China is a sleeping dragon in tech. I promise that they have the wit and will to achieve dominance in that domain organically. All attempts to isolate them from Western technology does is prod the dragon to wake.
They topped the supercomputer charts with a vast Intel Xeon Phi spend, so Obama nixed the Phi for them. So China made it a national security priority to develop their own processors and in a few short years they kicked our supercomputing ass with their home grown chips. And now they quit showing off the progress since.
The right approach is one that sells them just enough stuff to keep them dependent, but not dominant. Too much restraint and they're motivated to excel.
Justtryme90 t1_ix22ehz wrote
Chinese researchers are dopes, they are only good at stealing from others and copying.
aquarain t1_ix23ufx wrote
This form of racism is quite popular. It's found amongst the gap-toothed denizens of Arkansas trailer parks. It's founded in the racial bias that nobody could be as smart as you and your bruncle cus he got the common sense to run a successful towing business and gets the occasional tourist girl captive in the barn for free.
Sorry, but it's just not so. China has just as many geniuses per capita as the US does, which mathematically means they have three times as many.
FreddoMac5 t1_ix2fmus wrote
Nobody said Chinese people are dumb. Asians statistically speaking excel over everyone else in education.
China on the other hand, has a brain drain problem. It's what happens when you live in an authoritarian state.
sheeeeeez t1_ix3ugj0 wrote
>Nobody said Chinese people are dumb.
He very clearly said Chinese researchers are dopes.
FreddoMac5 t1_ix4u98r wrote
Which they are. Do you know what a brain drain is?
sheeeeeez t1_ix4wths wrote
This is an idiotic conversation. He said Chinese researchers are dopes. There's no hidden meaning, it's not even subtle. It's clear racism.
Just acknowledge and move on instead of defending someone you don't know saying something racist.
yellowteabag t1_ix3k1xu wrote
brain drain was true >20 years ago, not really today. while authoritarianism contributes to a little, much of it is actually from poor economic conditions. now that china is consistently getting richer, this is becoming less the case. this is also happening to other south east asian as well.
Justtryme90 t1_ix242wu wrote
I managed teams of researchers in China. I'm intimately aware of their sub par work. Most intelligent researchers have not returned to China and remain in the US.
This isn't a race thing, it's just a matter of fact that the researchers who live in China suck.
telmimore t1_ix37yrn wrote
Yet their patents are skyrocketing, their scientific journal impact is skyrocketing, they ranked #1 for selected research papers in a recent prestigious chip conference, etc. Etc. Your anecdotes are meaningless vs actual objective measures.
Justtryme90 t1_ix3ivqb wrote
I'm sorry you are stuck there.
telmimore t1_ix3nwar wrote
Sad we're just downvoting facts now.
Bubblepop123 t1_ix3r2eh wrote
The article you linked is simply stating that China ranked first in the amount published research papers accepted. That says absolutely nothing about how well their semiconductor industry is compared to the U.S. Seems like you’re really grasping at straws.
telmimore t1_ix3tl44 wrote
Why don't you read the fucking comment I replied to? He claimed China doesn't have good researchers, yet they just outdid the US at the top semiconductor conference on the planet that is highly selective on which papers they accept. I at no point claimed their semiconductor industry is already leading edge (although I'm sure they will catch up way faster than anyone expects). God damn you're all so brainwashed.
deftonite t1_ix414nx wrote
You're confused by quantity vs quality. The doc you're using for the basis of your arguement says that Chinese submitted more papers. It doesn't speak to the quality or impact of those papers. Any group can manufacture useless papers to have the appearance of superiority. Just as any redditor can shitpost useless claims repeatedly in an attempt to change perception. Just look at your posts here for verification.
telmimore t1_ix4isbe wrote
The conference only selects the best papers. Hence, quality. The fact that you can't comprehend this simple logic and are still going on about "quality over quantity hurrr durr" is astonishing frankly.
The nature index only looks at high quality papers as well. Again, if you read the link you'd have known this and wouldn't have gone on to your irrelevant rhetoric.
What's amazing is at least 3 other simpletons chose to vote you up and give you awards for straight up incorrect bullshit.
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telmimore t1_ix4i53f wrote
What does a ballpoint pen have to do with anything when they sent a fucking rover to Mars? Jeezus Christ it's like y'all operate from a script. Not sure if this bot behaviour or just typical American sheeplike behaviour.
I find it amusing you were so offended you had to message me some juvenile bullshit.
Bubblepop123 t1_ix3q608 wrote
Is that why China couldn’t develop a ballpoint pen without importing foreign resources until 2017?
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