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Kossimer t1_ixyztxc wrote

Reply to comment by PlayfulParamedic2626 in Renault's heavy electric trucks are now available to order by Sorin61

Unfortunately, manufacturing hundreds of millions of personal electric vehicles is not going to get us any closer to zero emissions, that's a car industry marketing ploy as pervasive as the recycling symbol on plastic bottles. Emissions will still come from mining the resources, manufacturing the cars, continuing to build highways to support them, and doing all of it more and more for the ever increasing number of cars on the road, continuing to clog them and make travel times longer in cities. Only building out public transportation infrastructure at a ludicrous pace can possibly lower our transportation emissions. Until you see that happening; train lines and bus lines and dedicated bike lanes being built like there's no tomorrow, the halting of new highway construction; we're still at business as usual.

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PlayfulParamedic2626 t1_ixz0wz3 wrote

You’re correct.

I can’t buy a train. I can’t afford to live near one. I can buy an electric car.

Do what you can until you can do better?

I have an ebike. Works great. I can’t buy a bike lane.

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bsloss t1_ixz5qqn wrote

One way or another new cars are going to be made. It’s definitely better for the environment if these new cars are electric than if they are internal combustion.

Ideally we would transition to more public infrastructure for transit (trains and busses), but some cars will always be needed and it’s better for the environment if those cars run on electricity.

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humansrscu t1_iy0ruk4 wrote

Emissions would still come from the manufacturing of gasoline/diesel engine vehicles as well. The difference would be hundreds of millions of gasoline/diesel engines pouring CO, HAPs, Hydrocarbons, oxides of nitrogen which produce smog and acid rain, while E.Vs don't produce these pollutants.

The power needed to charge the vehicles is the main issue. But as we build more solar and wind farms among other clean energy generation, we should see improvement.

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nyaaaa t1_iy1xnw7 wrote

How one stupid anti EV shill that can't do math put it

> 50% of lifetime CO2 emissions from an electric car come from the energy used to produce the car. This compares unfavorably with the manufacture of a gasoline-powered car which accounts for 17% of the car’s lifetime CO2 emissions.

> When a new EV appears in the show-room, it has already caused 30,000 pounds of CO2 emissions. Equivalent amount for manufacturing a conventional car is 14,000 pounds.

Which means EV is 60,000 lifetime pounds of CO2 emissions

And gasoline is 82,353 lifetime pounds of CO2 emissions

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