Submitted by No-Drawing-6975 t3_zx9yji in technology
LiterallyZeroSkill t1_j226ygv wrote
Reply to comment by Bonez718 in Activision's Boston studio workers announce unionization by No-Drawing-6975
Unions ruined my previous workplace. We used to get bonuses depending on performance. I'm on a 6 figure job and I'd get an extra $30-$40k per year with the bonus, which was great.
Then the union movement started at work, employees voted to unionize and the unions negotiated with management for some crappy % salary increase, year on year but in return bonuses were removed and it also reduced promotions.
I ended up leaving because I was making less than I was pre-unionization. Idiots who were bad employees couldn't get fired because the union protected them and they kept getting shifted from team to team because no manager wanted them on their team. People would magically start taking sick days on very important days in our year when we needed the most people at work, again management couldn't touch them because they were protected. Productive workers like me were given more and more work because the bad employees did less and less, so I was having to pick up the additional work, which would have been fine with me, except bonuses had been removed and promotions were gone. So there was no point for me to put in the effort I used to and I'd be better off slacking off like the rest of the idiots, put in minimal effort and just take that 3% pay rise year on year.
Unionizing just totally ruined the culture of the workplace. It turned into a shithole daycare centre for adults rather than a productive workplace.
9-11GaveMe5G t1_j228i81 wrote
This is libertarian fan fic
Charming_Wulf t1_j22i9xf wrote
I think this is some copy pasta as well. Definitely seen some variation of this in EVERY union post that goes big.
LiterallyZeroSkill t1_j22oe60 wrote
Not copy pasta at all, it happened to me.
It's probably a familiar story because it's not unusual for something like that to happen.
SofaKingStonedSlut t1_j22j6ly wrote
Well it’s a pretty fresh account so yeah, hardly authentic.
LiterallyZeroSkill t1_j22ohbd wrote
I mean you can look at my post history to see if I'm some sort of troll, which I'm clearly not.
Don't get why people dismiss others experiences for no reason.
TehRoot t1_j22srj2 wrote
because you're not allowed to run counter to the groupthink opinion
and most redditors have never been "high performers" ever, except maybe when they were in a grade school "gifted" class and got a gold star accompanied by a free lunch room pass for an extra ice cream for reading "The Phantom Tollbooth" the fastest.
AgnewsHeadlessBody t1_j22tit9 wrote
Ah yes something that goes against my view point. Must be fake.
AgnewsHeadlessBody t1_j22tfwn wrote
The down votes are flowing but in reality unions can be terrible for a workforce if managed incorrectly. They are sadly extremely important though. Where I work there are two unions for different groups. Both are absolutely hemorrhaging employees because they have terrible managers that only received their positions because of nepotism. I have spoken to 20 or so people who left the union to come over to the non union side because it was so bad.
LiterallyZeroSkill t1_j22u7sx wrote
>The down votes are flowing but in reality unions can be terrible for a workforce if managed incorrectly. They are sadly extremely important though.
That's fine, but I was just speaking about my specific workplace though. Wasn't commenting on all workplaces in the economy.
Unions might be great for some businesses, but for my previous workplace, it was terrible and I, and other employees who were really damn good at their jobs all left over the next few years.
>Both are absolutely hemorrhaging employees because they have terrible managers that only received their positions because of nepotism.
That'll never work. If you're employing people based on things other than experience, education, talent and fit for the work culture, it's likely not going to work out. Nobody wants to work for a business run by nepotism. Great way to lose talent. I don't know if nepotism is more prevalent in strongly unionized workplaces, but even without the union, they're going to crumble given enough time.
DelusionalZ t1_j2340el wrote
Sounds like the union fucked up their negotiations/were strong armed by the company. Hardly a common occurrence with good unions, and definitely not "working as intended" as you seem to be implying here.
Unionisation almost always results in higher pay and greater benefits and protections. They are, by definition, for labour. There are countless studies, cases, economists, etc. that back this up, and at this point it's common knowledge.
Unionise. If you don't, you lack the bargaining power as individuals, in a system where the owner-class already restricts that power.
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