Submitted by SuspendedInKarmaMama t3_11u8ukw in television
frenin t1_jcpymp2 wrote
Reply to comment by Lethal234 in Why are people so deathly afraid of cancellation these days? by SuspendedInKarmaMama
>and how we get news about a cancellation or renewal very directly
Before we didn't?
>Netflix has created a catch-22 in many ways due to their strategies
It seems like the only way any company can avoid it is by keep airing shows no matter how unpopular or unprofitable.
Oh well, at the end it's a pity shows die but shows will keep coming.
>due to social media water cooler discussio
Don't really know what this is tbf
Skavau t1_jcqjvm1 wrote
>Before we didn't?
No, not as much. People just weren't into TV in the way that they are now generally. And most shows were set up procedurally so that it could also kinda resolve itself.
>Don't really know what this is tbf
In the 90s and 00s there were less online spaces to talk about shows, share show news etc. You likely just talked about TV shows with your friends.
Now a HOTD episode thread can have 2000 comments in a day.
frenin t1_jcqlfwl wrote
>No, not as much. People just weren't into TV in the way that they are now generally
That's just not true tho. TV had legions of fans too. From Sopranos to Friends.
>And most shows were set up procedurally so that it could also kinda resolve itself.
Cliffhangers aren't an streaming phenomenon dude.
>In the 90s and 00s there were less online spaces to talk about shows, share show news etc. You likely just talked about TV shows with your friends.
But between 00s to 2015 there were plenty of online spaces to talk about shows and cancellations were still ripe.
Kinda weird but then again, psychology is weird
Skavau t1_jcqlq5c wrote
>That's just not true tho. TV had legions of fans too. From Sopranos to Friends.
There were less Sopranos type shows, and sitcoms are different thing entirely. They tend to be cheaper, tend to be less plot-driven.
>Cliffhangers aren't an streaming phenomenon dude.
Shows were much more commonly set up in the procedural 'monster/criminal/case of the week' style. Also seasons were longer so you felt like you got more from it.
>But between 00s to 2015 there were plenty of online spaces to talk about shows and cancellations were still ripe.
I think people have complained about cancellations in the late 00s and 10s tbh.
But there's definitely a lot more competition now.
frenin t1_jcqr0ol wrote
>There were less Sopranos type shows, and sitcoms are different thing entirely. They tend to be cheaper, tend to be less plot-driven.
Less not zero and it was because of budget and by the end of the 90s tv dramas started ramping up.
>Shows were much more commonly set up in the procedural 'monster/criminal/case of the week' style. Also seasons were longer so you felt like you got more from it.
Ending in cliffhangers each season.
>I think people have complained about cancellations in the late 00s and 10s tbh.
>But there's definitely a lot more competition now.
People have always complained about cancellations but I don't remember any time in which a quarter of the audience refused to watch a show for fear of cancellation...
Either that audience has just turned 18 so they only remember TV under Netflix or people have really forgotten how ruthless linear tv could be.
Skavau t1_jcqr6id wrote
>Less not zero and it was because of budget and by the end of the 90s tv dramas started ramping up.
Indeed.
>People have always complained about cancellations but I don't remember any time in which a quarter of the audience refused to watch a show for fear of cancellation...
I mean I don't know if there's ever been data on this historically. But also in the 90s and 00s you kinda had to watch the show when it aired, or wait for reruns or eventually buy it.
frenin t1_jcquzj6 wrote
>I mean I don't know if there's ever been data on this historically. But also in the 90s and 00s you kinda had to watch the show when it aired, or wait for reruns or eventually buy it.
You didn't have to do that once piracy became widespread tho. And if you don't want to watch a show because you fear it'd be cancelled, that doesn't really matter.
Skavau t1_jcqv36t wrote
Well yes, but not everyone did pirate in the 00s (either for ethical reasons or inability to do so) - and internet was slower, quality was worse, and HD space was less
Sithfish t1_jcqpl2e wrote
Before streaming you would find out once a year in May whether all shows are renewed or cancelled, right before the Upfronts where they reveal the new shows. Now you find out as soon as the decision is made.
frenin t1_jcqqgti wrote
What? Before streaming shows could be cancelled and pulled from air mid season.
What are this rose tinted glasses?
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