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Sufficient_Creme6961 t1_jdjrepy wrote

I think they mean Barney though but agreed

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OmniManDidNothngWrng t1_jdos2q9 wrote

Either way I'm very confused how you think HIMYM is a good show if you dislike either character.

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throwtheclownaway20 t1_jdjt5lw wrote

Barney was a dick, but he was very honest about the fact that he was not interested in any commitment and didn't have any great respect for the women who slept with him. That episode where he takes Lily on a tour of his place to show all the ways it's actively hostile to women is some of the best character-building in TV history.

Ted, OTOH, was basically a "nice guy" (read: incel) who just happened to have enough self-awareness to groom himself, hold a conversation, etc. without being instantly repellant to women. Hell, the entire show is literally built around his older self going on this long, drawn-out yarn to his kids that ultimately ends with, "So that's how I met your mom... anyway, she's dead now, so I'm gonna go back banging your Aunt Robin again since she was the woman I really loved this whole time."

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Substantial-Dust4417 t1_jdjy8fl wrote

>who just happened to have enough self-awareness to groom himself, hold a conversation, etc. without being instantly repellant to women.

Remember everything is told from Ted's perspective. What you're seeing is Ted's version of events.

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throwtheclownaway20 t1_jdjyhag wrote

And he's still an asshole! I shudder to think what his life was really like

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Substantial-Dust4417 t1_jdjyzga wrote

The writers did kind of nod to that a few times, like when Lily and Marshal mention how obnoxious Ted was in college and Ted goes into complete denial mode only to eventually realise it was true.

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