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Archamasse t1_je716g0 wrote

Reply to comment by Devil-Hunter-Jax in TV star Paul O'Grady dies aged 67 by ucd_pete

Several tweets saying there'd be uproar if that was broadcast today, and it's sadly true.

Mad to think that about that, of all O’Grady’s stuff.

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Devil-Hunter-Jax t1_je73136 wrote

Uproar over what he said? Not a chance. The Tories are outright HATED in the UK-any comedian blasting them over their bullshit would be praised. There's comedians that do it right now. Everything he said here would be aired just fine.

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Archamasse t1_je7camp wrote

If the Tories were that hated they wouldn't keep getting in. Which was a similar dynamic to Savage's heyday.

Think about how much gnashing of teeth there was over BBC not being deferential enough, or the clear moves to punish Channel 4 for factually unflattering reporting.

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Muad-_-Dib t1_je7jrsk wrote

> If the Tories were that hated they wouldn't keep getting in.

While I do absolutely lament the lack of any critical thought in the UK electorate over the last 13 years...

The Tories got back in the last several times because they harnessed the idiocy of Brexit and Labour proceeded to completely shit the bed at the same time, not because people suddenly thought the Tories had good policies.

I personally know multiple family members that in 2014 wouldn't have pissed on a Tory if they were on fire, to then vote for them in successive elections because they made Brexit their ideology.

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Devil-Hunter-Jax t1_je7f4oj wrote

Probably because of how unelectable the only opposition party is now. Corbyn stood a good chance but he was absolutely hammered by the papers and news here. Now look at Labour. Starmer can't even name one bloody policy he wants to put in place and he's backed down on so many things-he claimed he's an LGBTQ+ ally and yet he refused to speak up in favour of trans rights and has multiple transphobes on his front bench that he does nothing about.

England is now stuck with Tory and Tory Lite. We're fucked either way. Doesn't help that Labour SHOULD be appealing to younger voters so that they can actually get the votes like Corbyn did. If Labour wants to be elected, they need to shift back to the left instead of being centrist and appeal to younger voters who lean left more than right.

As is... There's no party that stands a chance against the Tories in the next election and all the older generations keep voting those fuckers in.

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