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bangharder t1_itvsj47 wrote

And men will be blamed when it’s canceled

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tetoffens t1_itvvoqp wrote

Didn't that happen like once? People like you seem to be the ones who make a bigger deal out of it when women get cast like this. Why is there a specific subset of men who want so badly to be victims?

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STRIpEdBill t1_itvxtd5 wrote

Ghost busters, Charlie's angels, she hulk are just a few examples where men were blamed for poor viewer ship.

Also straight men were blamed for that shitty movie with Billy eichner flopping

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AgentElman t1_itwlrnc wrote

You mean the shows and movies where a lot of men went on line and complained about the show or movie being for women and not men and rating bombed it?

What is shocking is that the men who devoted weeks of their lives to attacking those shows and movies did not claim credit for it afterwards and instead acted like they were on vacation that whole time.

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bangharder t1_itwn8sq wrote

No idc who the star is as long as the movie is good

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Mikethebest78 t1_itwrqxf wrote

I would say "oh dear god no!!"

But don't have the energy anymore.

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SteelmanINC t1_itx9phl wrote

I genuinely cannot Imagine a woman being good in this role. I dont care all that much about this IP though so have at it i guess

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Glenn-Rubenstein t1_itw75o5 wrote

Kevin Smith had a pitch for a Cobra Kai-like sequel with Tatum Oneal as a Buttermaker-like, grown up version of Amanda. I wish we were getting that version.

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VampireHunterAlex t1_itxdyzm wrote

That’s nice, but I’d recommend focusing on having quality writing and a compelling storyline first: Maybe spend more time with your hands occupied on a keyboard working instead of already pointing fingers at the people they’re going to blame beforehand for its inevitable failure to not get picked up for a full season.

You cannot rely solely on race/gender swapping gimmicks to get eyeballs on your content. While having great writing isn’t a guarantee of success (many great shows have failed), at least the show will be respected instead of forgotten.

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MrBoliNica t1_itz01gf wrote

how are you behaving any better? are you judging them based on your bias? how do you know their writing is not already fine, or the storyline is not already compelling? who is pointing what fingers?

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VampireHunterAlex t1_itz61iv wrote

Having a noted history, especially the past several years, of producing complete L’s gives me more than enough justification. They have to build that trust back up if they want to pull more people in.

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MrBoliNica t1_itz6mf4 wrote

Whose “they”? This shows creator? Why do they need “to earn trust back”?

Are you judging them based on how they look, without taking their individual body of work into account? Don’t you see the irony, and also how problematic that is

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VampireHunterAlex t1_itzaoyr wrote

Start reading the industry rags, pal. A recession more or less is coming down the pipeline, and everybody is going to get squeezed. Animation, due to how long it takes to produce, was only the tip of the iceberg.

It‘s called showBUSINESS for a reason, and the incredibly funny thing is: For how much you’re defending this program, I highly doubt you’re planning on even watching it.

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MrBoliNica t1_itzcce3 wrote

So what makes you think these creators will fail, and need to already “earn trust back”? Why? Because of who they are?

That’s kinda problematic bud

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VampireHunterAlex t1_itzebyx wrote

>deadline.com/2022/1...

Friend, there is an unbelievable amount of content out there: From networks, streaming services, YouTube, podcasts, books, music, etc. This crappy random network series is not a hill you need to die on.

And as for "problematic"? Inflation, disease, poverty, censorship, rising fascism: Those are examples of problems. Arguing with someone on the internet for their opinion on a television series is the definition of privileged, as I fully acknowledge from my end.

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DifficultMinute t1_iu0fhvm wrote

I mean, I guess?

The original was almost 50 years ago, and while beloved, it had some mildly successful (though widely panned) sequels, as well as an awful series. (Full disclosure, the second is my favorite. The "Let them play" scene is an all-time heartwarming moment in movie history).

The Billy Bob Thornton remake got okay ratings, but barely broke even (which, in Hollywood, means it lost a fortune).

I just have so many questions...

Who is going to be the target audience for this one? Will men tune in for a drunken woman hitting and yelling at kids? Will women? Will they even go that route? Will they be able to draw in fans of the original, or do they even care? Will they be able to bring in new fans (Something Game Changers seems to have failed at)?

If the show ever gets made, as a huge fan of the original, I'll give it a couple episodes, but it just feels like every single road is leading towards this being a huge bust.

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