Submitted by Neo2199 t3_xyxcpb in television
Ultimately as a fan I'm glad we got something that fits better into the overall continuity than some of the initial ideas that were discussed for an American reboot, but ironically those earlier ideas probably would've been a better starting point for onboarding new fans.
Funny they went to the trouble of fitting into the lore but still made him half human.
That was one of the few things that carried over from Segal's original attempt at a reboot that he was working on with Spielberg's production company of all people. The Doctor and Master were supposed to be half-brothers who shared a Time Lord father but the Doctor had a human mother and the Master was fully Time Lord. I think the fact that they carried it over means he was probably still pushing for that story arc to turn up if the series had been picked up after the TV movie.
I think SF debris has pitched the only decent way to save it. start at the regen wake up in the locker not knowing anything due a a poor regen then get memories, bits of the 7th and what not over the course of the episode Play it as a mystery
Even Sylvester McCoy has gone on record to say they should have done an origin story after the series was established. I get why they kept him in ("Look, this alien can change his body when the old one is about to die!"), but as a pilot they should have just came in TARDIS a-blazin' and let the Doctor do his thing.
And that’s basically what they did with Eccleston… and that’s how I got hooked. I knew classic who existed but Eccleston was my first doctor. It took 3 episodes before I was googling the older stuff and trying to find out if it was a reboot or a continuation.
Eccleston was my first official Doctor too. I've seen some of the older Doctor Who on and off (and without context), but the return of the Doctor was my actual introduction to the show.
Pretty much why it failed in the US
Eric Roberts: a man who won't say no to any role
when i was a young kid though, best of the best was like karate kid for the big kids and i loved eric roberts.
Loved Best of the Best. 80s martial arts movies were the best.
…of the best.
698 movies/TV and counting!
He said he likes to act!
https://www.avclub.com/eric-roberts-stands-by-every-one-of-the-74-movies-he-di-1822601904
I believe the wife of Eric Roberts's character in the Doctor Who movie is his real life wife too!
He just filmed 5 cameos for 5 different movies in the time it took you to write that
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Or how most working actors operate.
Most working actors don’t have nearly 700 film and tv acting credits
Most working actors aren’t Julia Robert’s brother
No they arent
I'll have to double check.
Fun fact, she got her start because she was his sister. My how the turn tables.
He has no regrets!
https://www.avclub.com/eric-roberts-stands-by-every-one-of-the-74-movies-he-di-1822601904
Also Mystic Pizza had Julia Roberts's character waiting actual tables, I believe!
Yeah, most professional actors don't really have the stability to turn down a bunch of work.
"What's that? You want me to play the villain in Michael Flatley's self directed spy movie? I'm in!"
Riverdances with wolves
He's always fine to good in everything, too. People like to talk shit about him but I'm never upset to see him pop up.
It was RAMIREZ
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Weirdly the only things I've seen Eric Roberts in is TDK and the music video for Mr Bright side. I know he's been in a lot but I just haven't seen anything.
Even if it's getting eaten in a small mountain town.
He was even in the Human Centupede 3, I remember hearing his family had an intervention about his career when it was announced he was in it.
That's hilarious
To billed man on Bigfoot vs DB Cooper Eric Roberts?
Holy shit his imdb just for the last few years.
Can’t stream the movie anywhere!
…except Britbox.
I had never heard of BritBox before but looks quality! Thanks for sharing!
If you decide to subscribe to britbox check out “inside no. 9”.
Masterpiece of a show, even their live episode was trippy as hell when it aired!
This is one of the cases where sailing the high seas is the only option to find something.
Or buy the dvd
I'm not the same guy, but I haven't had a functional DVD drive in my house since my 360 died
DVD? Is that a venereal disease from the 70s my grandpa talked about? How could it effect your house by 360 degrees?
Excuse me? I’d much rather show my support for my favorite intellectual properties by ensuring their financial and viewing metrics are as bad as I can make them, thank you very much.
It’s on Brit box
I haven't seen it since 1996, but I don't think you're missing much.
It's worth a look if you're a fan of the show, if only for McGann's portrayal of the Doctor. It's a very cheesy 90s movie otherwise though.
Like the Peter Cushing movie, I'd only recommend it for completionists.
I'd argue it's better than the Cushing ones.
You'll get no argument from me there.
Thank god.
> In the mid-1990s there was an attempt to reinvigorate Doctor Who which went off the air in 1989. A television movie was planned as a backdoor pilot, which was being produced by Steven Spielberg’s Amblin Entertainment for broadcast on the FOX Network in the USA and the BBC in the UK. The film would introduce a new Doctor (the Eighth), played by Paul McGann. And the project came very close to having a sort of Star Trek connection with Leonard Nimoy. Following his feature film debut with Star Trek III in 1984 Nimoy began a successful career behind the camera, including the hit 1987 movie Three Men and a Baby, he continued directing into the ’90s.
> Producer Philip Segal: "I had several meetings with Leonard Nimoy who wanted to direct it. I met with him at Amblin [Entertainment], and we had wonderful conversations. He was genuinely excited about the possibility."
> "FOX did not want him to do it. They were concerned it looked very kitsch to go, ‘Aren’t we clever? We’ve got Spock from Star Trek directing.’"
> According to the producer, FOX would only allow Nimoy to direct if he agreed to play the film’s villain The Master, The Doctor’s longtime adversary. Segal considered the idea “insulting” to Nimoy as that “wasn’t the object of the exercise.”
If they were afraid of Nimoy being attached looking too gimmicky, wouldn't having him play the villain make that much worse?
I think it would have, but maybe they figured he’d attract enough Trek fans as an actor as opposed to a director to make it worth looking gimmicky.
No, it would distract from it. They could market it as "starring Spock".
I think they threw that out there knowing he'd likely say no.
TIL Nimoy directed 3 Men and a Baby
Eric Roberts will play a villain in a music video for Kohl's Cash and a Costco hotdog
He guest starred on Justified after they had a character shit-talk his sister by saying she looked too much like him.
Eric Roberts did a decent job. Paul McGann is still one of my favorite Doctors.
Definitely would bring back Eric Roberts for new era of Who under RTD’s second wave. Would seem like the kind of casting he would do.
Roberts has done some of the Big Finish dramas as the Master, so he would probably be open to a return in live action
Roberts is the type of actor who will quite literally not turn a project down if he can fit it in his schedule.
It would be kinda fun to instead of a Multi-Doctor Storx having a Multi-Master one. I know we had the Series 10 finale, but that didnt have quite as much interaction between the Master as a proper special themed around them could be.
Roberts Master with Dhawans (or a new Master, whatever) could be seriously fun.
Say what you want but Nimoy as Master would've been at least interesting.
One could say it would have been...
Fascinating.
A Talking Master??!?
I get this reference!
Geostorm!!!
I recall Roberts doing a good job. The problem was everything else.
Paul McGann was a great Doctor too both in his last appearance to date especially and audio and we have this movie to thank for it.
FOX should have let him direct regardless. That would have been awesome.
Nimoy as The Master could have been incredible.
Am I the only one that thinks that Nimoy would have been a fantastic Master?
I watched that tv movie a few years ago when I was really into Doctor Who and it wasn't that good. The only good things were the Eighth Doctor and the Master. I really wish actually we could've seen more of the Eighth Doctor outside of the novels because Paul McGann did a great job. The short he's featured in showing his regeneration into the War Doctor is fantastic.
You should check out his audio dramas, they’re amazing. A bunch of them are on Spotify.
I'm sad we missed out on this
And the cosmic ballet continues....
Probably for the best, Nimoy could have made a good Master but was already too old in 1996. Who would have believed he was a paramedic
Well, cost of living even then had people putting off their retirement ...
I have a soft spot for that movie. For all it’s flaws and missed landings, McGann is a wonderfully compelling Doctor. His audio Dramas are so much fun.
But Nimoy as the master could have been DARK, and I would love to see that.
I remember watching this and just hating it. Sylvester McCoy getting gunned down by gangbangers? The Master now a paramedic guy? WTF
Well, the Master certainly has been jealous of the Doctor so taking over a paramedic is a step in the right direction!
The Master took the paramedics body.
Didn’t even know this existed,so…
Eric Roberts is such a terrible actor
Eric Roberts was a poor choice for an iconic villain.
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Insane! Still not sure there was any way to salvage this script, though. It's weird that you would pitch tv film about a time-travelling good-Samaritan to a new audience and then have it focus on a lore-intensive fight between the time traveller and his arch nemesis exclusively in contemporary san francisco and then also have him switch faces partway through the film. This movie was about as beginner unfriendly as it could've possibly been.