cabose7 t1_ix6ls2v wrote on November 21, 2022 at 3:22 AM

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Yeah I agree on pretty much all counts. Watchmen was certainly much more ambitious.

I think it'd do the genre a lot of good if it had a B movie division much like westerns did in their golden age - a good B western could just be a mostly dialogue driven two hander with a couple of locations. I'd love to see a comic book movie like that - God knows actual comic books have done great issues like that.

CptNonsense t1_ix6m65j wrote on November 21, 2022 at 3:25 AM

There are factually plenty of superhero style B movies. You just don't look for them or see them.

cabose7 t1_ix6mvaw wrote on November 21, 2022 at 3:31 AM

They don't really get made anymore. No one's making Super or Chronicle these days.

CptNonsense t1_ix6nm0t wrote on November 21, 2022 at 3:38 AM

Yes they are.

Samaritan and Secret Headquarters came out this year. Thunder Force last year. B superhero B movies. Are you confusing B movies and indie films? If so, whatever the hell this is came out this year.

And those are just the clear cut "definitely superhero" films. When you stretch the genre to "people with superpowers", you get "Everything Everywhere All at Once". This year.

cabose7 t1_ix6prl3 wrote on November 21, 2022 at 3:57 AM

Samaritan has a $100 million budget, you think that's a B movie?

CptNonsense t1_ix7wcjv wrote on November 21, 2022 at 12:53 PM

Pick at what you want, you are still wrong. You going to tell me the Accident Man sequel and Corrective Measures aren't B movies, too?

Never mind that's just superhero movies.

cabose7 t1_ix80ct1 wrote on November 21, 2022 at 1:32 PM

The B movie system as it was for westerns in their hay day doesn't exist anymore. They were theatrical films with low to modest budgets but had access to studio resources and up and coming talent that weren't ready for A pictures.

Jesse Van Johnson makes DTV films, and he's actually pretty good at directing even if he rarely gets a good script. He's never gonna get the next Chris Evans or whatever who needs to cut his teeth before becoming Captain America. It's actually the opposite, Johnson gets stars at the end of their careers.

I'm lamenting that superhero films don't have a true B movie system.

CptNonsense t1_ix831ag wrote on November 21, 2022 at 1:55 PM

>The B movie system as it was for westerns in their hay day doesn't exist anymore.

Do we are just being disingenuous now, ok.

>I'm lamenting that superhero films don't have a true B movie system.

I bet that died after the paramount accords in 48, so no shit.