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nachobidnis t1_j0c9pc7 wrote

HBO has a problem? Have you been to a porn site in the past 2 years?

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gonzagylot00 t1_j0capon wrote

Seriously, go to any porn site and they are pushing incest porn all over the front page. Not my thing!

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RealCoolDad t1_j0cd00n wrote

It’s only by marriage!

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Zero_ST t1_j0dcl1b wrote

I really hate the modern incest porn trend. As soon as the word "step" is uttered my boner is killed. Going back 5+ years ago there was much less but it was far hotter without any of that nonsense. If they aren't blood related, who cares?

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SkiptomyLoomis t1_j0et2sv wrote

Lmao started reading this comment assuming you were just another guy mad at the amount of “step” porn out there, did not expect incest porn purism.

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Jpat863 t1_j0ezl4f wrote

I miss the good ole days of seeing women banged in buses, vans, and by a pizza delivery guy.

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VicFantastic t1_j0dmemj wrote

You do realize that they arn't actually related right?

Just turn the sound down

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Zero_ST t1_j0dpy6x wrote

If I turn the sound down then I can't hear the "cum inside me daddy" and such, so it's just a normal porn scene. Boooring.

And in the porn I watch, plenty of them are actually related.

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Lyphyr t1_j0edbfw wrote

????? (:(:(:(:

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Gabzop t1_j0ef3ol wrote

My man said "if they aren't blood related, who cares?" Like that's a normal thing.

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Darnell5000 t1_j0gt2p5 wrote

For real. I miss the years of “I’m your nurse! Let me do a quick check up” or “I’m your teacher and you’re failing this class”. Like… go back to those scenarios. What also sucks is the porn studios claim “The incest stuff does well. Why change it?” People aren’t watching for the plot. They’re skipping over it. Switch back to Nurse/Patient and the numbers won’t drop off.

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[deleted] t1_j0f6jo9 wrote

Agreed lol it's as if there's a ban on these fantasy scenarios unless "step" is in the title.

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Neo2199 t1_j0ck93z wrote

Couple years ago, there was an article on Vice talking about increasing popularity of incest porn in recent years.

Vice: How Incest Porn Is Making a Comeback - March 7, 2016

> Jeff Dillon, the vice president of business development of eLine.com (which handles popular porn hub GameLink), says that interest in fauxcest porn has increased by over 1,000 percent in the last five years. "This niche was really popular in the 70s and 80s," he says, noting the striking popularity of 1980 fauxcest feature Taboo—in which a sexually frustrated mother whose husband has recently left her ends up turning to her son, who, despite being asleep at the time, ultimately reciprocates—and other fauxcest films that were so unique, the public became fascinated.

> "But [fauxcest] faded out in the 90s," Dillon says, in part because incest stories are based on relationships between characters, and narrative in porn started to fade out of fashion. "I believe it went away in part because of the rise of B&B—big boobs and blonde hair. The 80s were the beginning of the glamorous porn superstars and contract studio stars. It led to many different genres of porn, many of which weren't story-driven."

> However, the past decade has seen a resurgence in narrative porn, setting the stage for a fauxcest comeback. "We've revisited a lot of older genres," Dillon says. "Parodies had their revival already, and now it's like producers and consumers are rediscovering the fauxcest genre, and it's back in style." Two years ago, adult studio Forbidden Fruit Films began exclusively featuring family role-play scenes. Millennial porn viewers—and especially women—have taken to the genre with a surprising appetite.

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milkysatan t1_j0clf2a wrote

This might sound weird but I wonder if part of the interest has to do with people seeking content with actors acting like they care about each other. There aren't a lot of porn genres that focus on characters who are even friends, let alone that love each other.

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hannahbaba t1_j0corg2 wrote

This is so oddly wholesome in a conversation about porn.

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Frost312 t1_j0cniqy wrote

Honestly, I like this take on it. Cause there was and still somewhat is, a huge "goreporn" and all its subsidiaries, on the other end of the spectrum.

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Neo2199 t1_j0cof5c wrote

Yeah, that's why 70s/80s porn movies are the best.

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Dry-Mortgage5063 t1_j0e2y52 wrote

Nah. I work tangential to the industry and interface directly with customers. They're into the incest.

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JustABiViking420 t1_j0fvpjj wrote

Im ngl I was sent a gay furry comic from the 90's that was the best porn I've ever read through mostly because the sex was limited to a handful of scenes and the rest was a really gripping story about coming out in college and accepting your sexuality. Idk how many people can say a porn comic legit made them cry because of how emotionally invested you get from the characters

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EnderGraff t1_j0cvvwt wrote

I’ve also heard it’s a really cheap way to add plot and taboo to a porno.

Like two or three lines of dialog and you’ve set the whole situation up to be something more than just people banging.

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Impossible-Will-8414 t1_j0e3qib wrote

It's fauxcest. A step relative is not in any way blood related, and it is not incest. Do any of these films show REAL incest? Such as, an actual mom and son? An actual brother and sister? No. They play it safe and show steps, and that does NOT COUNT as incest in any way.

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gonzagylot00 t1_j0d9hjq wrote

That's interesting.

I have to wonder also if the COVID years of people spending a lot of time at home resulted in more uh, interest, in incest porn.

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coletrain644 t1_j0ecwho wrote

It's also cheap as hell to make scene "taboo" in the definitive sense. Lots of people like to like things society says they shouldn't and it doesn't cost anything to make a scene taboo by adding a few extra words to a script.

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Solonotix t1_j0chzi0 wrote

I don't think porn sites are pushing it. It's one of those emergent content problems. From my perspective, in the early days of the step-fantasy and incest genre, it was usually more about providing a believable backdrop for the scenario. Once that authentic-amateur aesthetic became popular, the rest of the industry caught on, and now every video can slap a "Step-<relation>" tag to increase clicks. What's more, it makes it easy to define relations of the two or more actors without having to spend time in dialog.

Step-Mom immediately tells you there is an age difference of older woman. If it's straight porn, you know younger guy. Gay porn, it's a younger woman. Same thing with the babysitter trope, older guy screws younger girl (because babysitter characters are almost always jailbait-looking actresses).

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urborous t1_j0cjx8p wrote

Interesting, but I remember opening a Victorian porn novel and it was all incest, really vile stuff. I believe what you're saying (they just throw "step" on cuz nobody cares about the story,) but it's longterm.

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Solonotix t1_j0cp5m3 wrote

Sure, incest has quite the storied history. It's fairly well-documented, especially in places of nobility and cultures of "pure blood". That said, incest has been taboo since humans have had laws, really.

There's a well-known behavior among humans called the mere-exposure effect, whereby you become attracted to people you spend a lot of time with. Generally the first thing that triggers a new romantic relationship is time spent together, and conversely a common trigger for breakup/divorce is lack of quality time together. Now, extrapolate that to family, and you have a problem in which you have a high chance of becoming romantically involved with your progeny, caregiver, or sibling. Luckily, humans have a pheromone/mechanism (not sure exactly, read about it once and I dread the search to find it again) that short-circuits that behavior and generally causes you to view immediate family as non-mating partners. Obviously this isn't perfect either, because there are plenty of stories about familial rape, but it's part of why the practice isn't universal. On the contrary, the occurrence is low enough that we might consider the ones who partake to be aberrations.

As always with humans, it's complicated. There's a mix of primitive, biological urges, as well as societal pressures to keep healthy gene pools flourishing, but it doesn't stop people from being tempted or indulging in behaviors others might seem unsavory.

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Gowantae t1_j0e414u wrote

There is something called the Westermark effect. Adults are not sexually attracted to people with whom they grew up. They don't have to be relatives, so we know it's not purely based on pheromones. Some evidence of this is Taiwanese minor marriages, where pairs that were married as children had higher rates of divorce and infidelity and were less likely to have kids. Also Kibbutz age-mates, where Jewish immigrants lived in communal nurseries, and rarely would children that grew up in close proximity marry each other.

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Shapen361 t1_j0cn156 wrote

I think it's a massive case of correlation, not causation. My guess is someone saw a stepmom porn a while ago and clicked and watched because the porn star was hot. Then the person who made the video goes "hmmmm people love stepmom porn, we should make more" and now it's gotten totally out of hand.

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Chataboutgames t1_j0cl5qs wrote

It's a self reinforcing cycle. Stupid step sibling themed stuff dominates the market, so that's where the top tier performers end up working, so more people end up watching step sibling stuff because while they aren't interested in the theme/kink it's the thing the porn sites are putting in front of them at the most marketable moment.

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bhejda t1_j0cg6sh wrote

Are you sure you have tracking cookies deactivated? Maybe it offers according to previous interests...

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gonzagylot00 t1_j0d946w wrote

Not my thing. I never click on those. I don't want to make lewd remarks about what kind of porno I watch, but the "step-brother/step-sister" genre isn't it.

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Lima1998 t1_j0efud9 wrote

It's not like they're ACTUALLY related!

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fiction_for_tits t1_j0dtdrz wrote

It's weird that this thread is acting like this hasn't been a common feature of HBO For twenty years.

Six Feet Under, Deadwood, and Rome, those "early days, pioneers" of serialized TV all heavily featured incest based subplots.

Rome was the most incredibly baffling one because it was the least narratively condemning of it and it was never even marginally alluded to at any point in history between those two characters. They built up the character of Octavia and then had her fuck her brother, while also floating familial sexual tension throughout both seasons and even explicitly calling on a young Octavian to have sex with his uncle.

Incest is everywhere in the Rome show.

One of Six Feet Under's biggest plots is Billy's unrequited sexual attraction to his sister, which she rejects outright, but quietly entertains and is frequently curious about in private.

Deadwood's Joanie Stubbs was a character all about incest and how that affected her life and her future relationships.

Boardwalk Empire featured paternal incest.

Bored to Death had incest. Arguably manipulative incest.

It's hard to find a time when HBO isn't running incest and at times aren't jamming incest in for some reason where it doesn't belong. Then, of course, its two flagship shows are about Incest: The Movie - The Musical (The Series) in ASOIAF.

You can argue this or that about its motive, but you can't argue its frequency nor the fact that HBO seems to ask if there's a way to shovel some incest into your script.

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femminem t1_j0guvxb wrote

In Six Feet Under, that understanding is used to drive home just how psychotic Billy is. It’s certainly not glamorizing it.

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kclongest t1_j0cpuls wrote

I remember a few years back my younger nephew got in trouble for looking at porn and older family members out of the loop on the porn situation were running around saying he was looking at incest porn. I was all like “Waaaait a minute, here.. you all don’t get it!”

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valuethempaths t1_j0h0sfo wrote

That’s terrible. Having to check in as the family porn expert to protect him from judgement.

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kclongest t1_j0h17dh wrote

Well, I was happy to be the expert witness.

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TotalitarianismPrism t1_j0czgjg wrote

It's the answer to the post as well. It's taboo, alluring, and popular. Sure, it's gross to think about realistically, but TV is fantasy and demand rules. The fact of the matter is that, if it really grossed everyone out, the shows would flop and HBO would stop making them. The shows are popular and people are watching them, encouraging HBO to keep making them.

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CommentToBeDeleted t1_j0d04y9 wrote

Stop suggesting those gross things step-brother. Ewwww... I would never.

Seriously though, can you blame porn? Incest is one of those things that, so easy to include in videos. You just say "step-[relationship]" at any point in the video and BOOM you've now attracted another entire audience.

It's kind of like family shows lately that insert a token gay scene or character. It takes all but 0.5 seconds for them to deliver the dialogue that says "ah-hah! they ARE gay", it doesn't affect the plot in any meaningful way and now disney, pixar exec's get to be like "yeah we've always been down with the rainbow, we are inclusive."

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jyper t1_j0d6nsj wrote

Sure but

It's not Porn it's HBO.

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Ang3lo92 t1_j0gy9m4 wrote

My little brother changed his Xbox gamertag to “WtrUDoinStepBro” back in 2015 so I’d say it’s been going for quite awhile.

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davtruss t1_j0fhg02 wrote

I think this was covered on a "Brady Bunch" thread the other day. Just because I never thought about my own sisters or mom this way doesn't mean that one upstairs bathroom at the Brady home never led to questions. Talk about Jack and Jill....

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truethatson t1_j0du5jr wrote

I’m just thankful I don’t have siblings so I don’t even have a basis to comprehend why all of you want to be sister-lovers. This argument that HBO or porn sites are pushing it seems pretty weak. They’re businesses following the statistics and algorithms like any other business, and the math says that the majority of you totally want to bang your sisters lol

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Impossible-Will-8414 t1_j0e3vkp wrote

It's always stepsisters. Not real sisters. Stepsisters are not related by blood. It is not incest.

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