I enjoyed them, but it seems that they both followed a more cinematic style than previous shows, there's always a major cataclysm that's looming, lens flare's, and a super dramatic score. While the earlier shows were formulaic, there was a comfort to them, as you were almost spending time just seeing how life on a federation starship played out. Production value is top notch, acting is pretty good, and the story lines are not bad. Some things just felt somewhat forced, or drawn out when they didn't need to be. Anyway, that's my opinion.

They both started out decently but quickly disintegrated after a season or so. Both fell victim to writers/producers having to out-do their past Season which takes every season into evermore absurdity.

Both quickly left the Star Trek-y ways and turned into generic cataclysmic end-of-the-world plots et cetera. Take TNG, DS9 and SNW: Dial the dramatics and action by x25 and you have Discovery/Picard. It's very over the top.

Eh, you didn't notice that I excluded SNW did you?

Strange New Worlds is proof that you absolute can make good Star Trek in the 20s.

I think they just chose two shows out of the five new Star Trek shows they listed. So I don't think they hate all new trek I think they were voicing opinions on two very poorly managed shows amongst the list.