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OIWantKenobi t1_j0w2ony wrote

Reply to comment by GaimanitePkat in Rydell High is back in a first look at 'Grease: Rise of the Pink Ladies' by galaxystars1

Agreed. The whole point of the musical was “change yourself and people will like you.” It’s gross.

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Darcsen t1_j0y5x6v wrote

Maybe that's the analysis of the kids who think they're deep in High School, but the actual Grease is very clearly satire. FFS, they take off in a flying car and teen pregnancy is just waved away with veiled allusion to abortion. The last song is about a bunch of High School kids singing about how they're not going to lose touch with each other after they all graduate.

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Lozzif t1_j0ympfr wrote

They have an Angel fly down and tell one of the main charachters that she’s terrible at her dream job, that only hookers would use her and that she should give up and join the steno crew.

How do people not understand this is satire?

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GaimanitePkat t1_j10vwip wrote

I mean, according to this article, one of Rise of the Pink Ladies' creators apparently thinks that the theme of Grease was "defy gender stereotypes!" So the actual point of the source material seems to be entirely irrelevant to what's going to be produced.

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Darcsen t1_j115f03 wrote

> It's funny to then have been working on Grease and see how the culture of the 1970s affected the way they told the story of Grease. Grease is about breaking out of the expectations of your gender role, both for Sandy and Danny. That's a very '70s story.

Is that the line you were referencing? I don't completely agree with it, but it doesn't seem as outlandish as your claim given context.

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GaimanitePkat t1_j1161du wrote

Grease has next to nothing to do with "gender roles". Sandy's makeover is still feminine, just sexual, and Danny's transformation is.... doing sports. Ah, the very non-male thing to do, sports!

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Darcsen t1_j118gkm wrote

That's why I said I don't completely agree. Danny doesn't really break out of the expectations of his gender role, just takes up different aspects of it. Sandy, however, by being more outwardly sexual is breaking out of the expectations of a 50's feminine gender role.

It was by no means the focus of the movie, and if anything, Rizzo was the most defiant of her expectations, which is probably why the line is buried so far into the article. It didn't even register it until I doubled back.

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OIWantKenobi t1_j0yqjqd wrote

But if that’s the main audience (a lot of high schools do this musical) then satire would be sort of above their heads. The kids that don’t need the message of “change and you’ll be liked” are getting that message because they don’t comprehend satire. I didn’t as a high schooler, though I do now.

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Darcsen t1_j0yrkfw wrote

It originated as a musical, the intended audience for musicals isn't mainly high school aged kids.

> I didn’t as a high schooler, though I do now.

Then why did you say, "The whole point of the musical was “change yourself and people will like you.” It’s gross."?

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OIWantKenobi t1_j0yxmux wrote

Because that was my experience with it, and I did a lot of musicals in high school. I guess I was wrong in my analysis.

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MrBlueW t1_j0ykf4j wrote

The movie was satire, that was the joke

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