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stumpcity t1_j64apu6 wrote

Reply to comment by acerbus717 in Russell T Davies confirms Doctor Who spin-offs: "Time for the next stage" by ImpossibleGuardian

I don't think we will, unless it's radically reimagined. Not just because Barrowman is basically persona non grata now, but because Children of Earth was basically the best ending for that show and it then got horribly botched by Miracle Day in so, so, so many ways - not least of which being that was the season of the show that cemented the idea Torchwood WAS Captain Jack Harkness, and that Torchwood couldn't really be done without him.

Had Miracle Day been a) good at all and b) led by Gwen, with no Jack anywhere in sight, it could have had a lot more promise. Granted it still probably would have fallen way short of that promise, but still. There was an opportunity there that got so blown out, and then Barrowman's real life horseshit pissed on those ashes... I don't think Torchwood really comes back. Not unless it gets completely rethought/rewritten.

Now... a standalone 8-episode Eighth Doctor miniseries starring Paul McGann? Yes, fucking please.

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acerbus717 t1_j658idm wrote

I actually really love miracle day also barrowman was on the latest season of doctor who so I don’t think he is persona non grata.

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WrathOfTheMeep t1_j65apgf wrote

It's more the fact that he kept flashing people on set that makes his return unlikely...

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Elon_Kums t1_j65em6o wrote

But he already returned

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Elon_Kums t1_j65tjri wrote

The stuff about him getting his dick out was known for probably 10-15 years by now

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Elon_Kums t1_j662e9c wrote

It wasn't really an open secret, it was openly stated in interviews by the cast, Barrowman laughed and joked about it at conventions...

The only thing that changed is we now hold people to a higher standard.

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horseren0ir t1_j67qak6 wrote

I was a fan of him and the show and I only heard about it a couple of years ago

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ChezMere t1_j65jduz wrote

That was a few years ago actually, and before the stuff about him came out.

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Thanks-Basil t1_j679duq wrote

Children of Earth is one of the most depressing ends to a show I can think of. Nobody wins, everyone is sad, there’s no resolution and then it just ends.

Miracle day wasn’t great but it did open the door for more.

Hasn’t Barrowman been on Dr Who since his cancelling though? Wasn’t he in the last season, and teased future appearances?

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stumpcity t1_j67d0oq wrote

>Hasn’t Barrowman been on Dr Who since his cancelling though? Wasn’t he in the last season, and teased future appearances?

Nope. He was not in the last season, and the one appearance he made in Whitaker's show happened before the bad word around him went critical.

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MiltonFriedman2036 t1_j65p133 wrote

Russell Davies won't give a shit about that and will bring Barrowman back.

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stumpcity t1_j66fz0g wrote

I really do think he gives a shit, and he will not be bringing him back.

There’s too much downside and very little upside and there’s no point in gambling on odds that long when the house is already staking you way beyond prior expectations

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Shadowbros_proOG t1_j684r84 wrote

If torchwood is soft-rebooted or revived, Barrowman most likely won’t return, but Jack will probably be referenced with something explaining why jack isn’t in the show

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