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Fthwrlddntskmfrsht t1_ix8w3fu wrote

Reply to comment by coyote-1 in Tifu by ruining my relationship and a special night by Freerz

Did you seriously just say alcohol isnt addictive and because ppl can drink one day and not the next then it doesnt count as addiction? Yikessss. You need to go read up on addiction. I got news for you: someone who’s been sober 25yrs after being an alcoholic is still addicted. After 25yrs straight of not drinking the next day/ they are still addicted. Another news flash: a heroin addict is also addicted for life. Just because they are sober for X years doesnt mean shit. That’s why the people who have recovered are VERY serious about their sobriety dates. All it takes is a single slip- even 25 yrs later, and their entire life can spiral out of control again.

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coyote-1 t1_ix9179t wrote

You are restating what I said, and not accurately. I am not claiming that because someone somewhere can go a day without a drink, alcohol is not addictive. I stated that hundreds of millions can drink something today, and then not go for a ‘fix’ thereafter. They can go days or weeks or whatever, WITHOUT COUNTING DAYS, and not be obsessing over where/when they last had alcohol or where/when they might next have, or have to abstain from, having it again.

To repeat: were the substance itself addictive, that would not be the case. The bottle would enslave everyone it touches. IT DOES NOT.

But I can see where alcoholics wish to imagine that it’s the demon rum that is the problem. Beats the hell out of acknowledging maybe I just like anonymous wild sex or maybe I’m just a mean and nasty prick or whatever, in a world that approves of neither trait. Or perhaps spares one the effort of digging into one’s past to grasp exactly how one became that way.

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Fthwrlddntskmfrsht t1_ix9ayq9 wrote

You are so wildly misinformed it’s ridiculous. Do not spew your shit to anyone who is addicted to anything and please let them get help from actual professionals. To any real addict, you are DANGEROUS to talk to. You are going to ruin someone’s life by trying to be a know it all with no real credentials to do so. You do not understand the scientific ins and outs of addictions and it shows. I am not qualified to help others either- but the difference is I am out here correcting ppl who are clearly misinformed and who are likely spewing their BS to others. I am only giving my version of the info in order to combat others from providing help when they are not qualified.

My suggestion to anyone reading this all who knows they struggle with addiction: talk to a professional and avoid anyone like this guy like the plague bc they will misinform you and stop you from getting the help you need.

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coyote-1 t1_ix9gu6r wrote

Who is stopping anyone from getting help?
I notice you are not refuting my points; instead, you are making adhominem attacks.

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Fthwrlddntskmfrsht t1_ix9kaig wrote

I didnt even read your response either time bc all I needed was to scan and understand you were trying to defend your original statements, which are impossible to defend.

You are dangerous. Please stop talking to me. Please stop misinforming other people too. If anyone ever asks you about how addiction works please just refer them to a professional who knows what addiction actually is- and dont even for a second start spewing them your own version of what is the actual addiction, etc. Again- you are dangerous. Go away.

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