Impressive_Pin_7767 t1_jcpiip3 wrote
Reply to comment by operating5percpower in TIL that a famine in Persia (Iran) between 1917–1919 lead to the deaths of an estimated 2 million people. It's an event that hasn't been studied by many historians. by icantthinkofaname940
Hussein bin Ali al Hashimi named himself the king of those regions after the Arab Revolt. But then once World War I ended Syria and Lebanon were given to France and Palestine was given to the United Kingdom.
The British said that if the Arabs lead a revolt they'd be entitled to an independent Arab state from Syria to Yemen. The Arabs then did in fact lead a successful revolt and the British refused to grant them the independent state that they promised. Do you have a source for you 1/1000 figure?
The British promised Jewish people "a national home in Palestine" in the Balfour Declaration in 1917. The British then arrested Jewish people migrating to Israel up through 1948.
The Soviet Union didn't exist from 1917-1919 when the famine happened. You must be confusing this famine with another event.
Aporkalypse_Sow t1_jcqfwhx wrote
Honestly, the person you are replying to sounds like a member of the British royalty. Cause they are straight up full of garbage.
Even if someone was as generous as possible, you can not explain anything the empire did that wasn't just straight up awful. Attempting to conquer the globe usually suggests that the people are indeed assholes.
operating5percpower t1_jcr76fj wrote
"Hussein bin Ali al Hashimi named himself the king of those regions after the Arab Revolt. But then once World War I ended Syria and Lebanon were given to France and Palestine was given to the United Kingdom."
The British compensated Hussein bin Ali al Hashimi with control of Iraq for the loss of Syria. Pretty fair compensation.
The British gave the leader of the Arab revolt vast amounts of territory the fact that they didn't get everything they thought they were entitled to is whiny talk that disquise just how fortunate they were in what they were granted relative to there contribution to the war.
The average size of the force of the Arab revolt during most of the war was about 5000 men comparatively the total force of the British empire were over 7500000 men so technically 1/7500 time smaller then the British contribution. Almost every battle and campaign against the Turks which freed the Arabs was fought and won by regular British troops the Arabs were merely a raiding force against poorly defended rear areas.
The only reason the British took Palestine was so they can keep there promise to the Jews of a nationl home in Palestine.
But you know what the word national home land sound like it sounds to me like they were avoiding the word nation.
Because they never promised there own country nor did they promise that millions of Jews across the world could expect to migrate and take over the country from the Arabs.
The Russia civil war started in 1917 so during the period of drought in southern iran from 1917 to 1919 there traditional source of imports in Russia was cut of by the war they were also cut of from their own northern crops by the Russia occupation. This is what caused the famine not the British.
Impressive_Pin_7767 t1_jcr8vsf wrote
So it sounds like we agree that the British broke their promise then. They agreed to give the Arabs an independent state from Syria to Yemen and then once they war ended they didn't.
The idea that the British just held on to Palestine to keep their promise to the Jewish people is a lie. They arrested Jewish people who tried to travel to Palestine.
You said that the British did "most of the work" taking back land from the Ottoman Empire. That was a lie. It was the Arab forces in modern day Iran who were estimated to be 30,000-50,000, not 5,000 who did most of the work. Trying to compare their numbers to British forces fighting in France as evidence that the British did most of the work in modern day Iran is nonsense.
At least you stopped referring to Russia as "the Soviets". I'll give you credit for that but nothing else in your rant was historically accurate.
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