DryCoughski t1_jblqrjv wrote on March 9, 2023 at 11:07 PM

Reply to comment by obscureferences in TIL that a 26-story skyscraper pig farm was built in China's Hubei province, and has the capacity to slaughter 1.2 million pigs a year. by DukeMaximum

This is where you and I part ways. I don't agree with everything vegans say/do, but I'm 100% behind making food consumption sustainable and as low-impact on the planet as possible.

If the end product of that method is indistinguishable from the method that is objectively bad for the planet, I can't understand or agree with choosing the worse one, simply because you feel your "preference" has been taken away.

I don't mean to sound harsh, but it sounds incredibly selfish and short-sighted when you're effectively losing nothing except the choice to choose the harmful method.

obscureferences t1_jbm12n1 wrote on March 10, 2023 at 12:21 AM

I'm not choosing it because it's harmful, and if you keep objectivity you can see how it's unfair to judge so harshly on preference alone.

I could think up some selfless reasons but the fact remains I shouldn't have to. I shouldn't need to justify a freedom to have it. You should understand the ability to choose is worth defending in itself, even if you wouldn't make the same choice.

Selfish is dictating your preference is the only acceptable one.

DryCoughski t1_jbm2n7q wrote on March 10, 2023 at 12:33 AM

If you choose to steal something rather than pay for it with your own money, even though you don't need to, is that choice something you'd be able to justify? Is that a freedom you should be allowed to exercise even though it harms greater society?