Submitted by dioWjonathenL t3_y6mywx in todayilearned
This happens with pretty much all pets, and heck with race horses. Lol they don't 'alter genetics' like in a lab, they select for traits in breeding. People gravitate to aesthetics, and overlook a lot of medical problems that come with the looks
It also brings problems, like trouble breathing, eating, leaky eyes. I'm totally against it.
It's fucking ugly
You can get the same effect with half-way competent cannon.
Cats being hairless is also a genetic deformity. It’s what a lot of people want.
Wheeze, wheeze, wheeze (oh and you're breathing manually now)
They don't alter the cat's genetics. That's rather fixed.
Looks like the thing was hit with a shovel
No, silly, you can’t breed them when they’re fixed
It's just sad.
We need to have better regulations on breeding deformities into our pets.
Here's a sad fact for you: there is not a single English Bulldog that is considered 'healthy' by dog standards. Flat faces, bulging eyes, difficulty breathing, poor joints, unable to give birth without c-section, all traits bred into this once proud dog for purely vain 'aesthetics'.
Same thing with German Shepherds, due to a 'breed standard' trait the dogs have been bred with a sloping back (in other words, a disfigured spine) which leads to all manners of problems, including hip dysplasia, chronic pain/swelling, and even paralysis of the lower body.
Our pets deserve better.
It is very cute imo but highly unethical.
And that's evolution in a microcosm. A bit simplified but the basic idea. Deformities and mutations lead to evolutionary leaps all the time. Some deformities actually help animals survive and take advantage of particular niches in nature. In this case it's man directing the path but it's all the same concept.
Not defending smushed faces by the by.
i can find some level of cuteness. but to want to purposely breed them... thats pure evil.
Selective breeding does alter genetics slightly. And much, much faster than natural selection can. If genetics weren't changed, the litter would not look like their parents, and of course they do.
Yes..... But I said cat as in singular.
Just for completeness: What if its parents were selected?
That doesn't change the genes of the cat that is born.
Sure, but in this case it looks more like a symbiotic relationship has turned parasitic.
They do alter genetics just like in a lab, only with different means. The animals' genetic code is altered by selective breeding - only those whose genome expresses the desired characteristics are bred, which means their offspring carry that genetic information. The result is genetically no different from making that change with CRISPR, for example.
That being said, it's even worse than genegineering because you cannot precisely select which gene to target. You just breed dogs that look funny. And that means some traits are going to be reinforced involuntarily. This is why overbred dogs have other health problems unrelated to the actual physical traits being selected for.
Yup. What's a deformity and what's an advantageous trait is only situational. Is longer fur a deformity or an advantageous trait? Depends on the environment. Is no hair a deformity or an advantageous trait? Depends on the environment. Whatever helps your genes to spread better is advantageous by definition. Snubbed noses would be a disadvantage, but people killing puppies with normal snouts and keeping only those with snubbed noses makes it an evolutionary advantage.
just how the fuck people think this look remotely good to me its existence is just constant suffering
Ok, yes, the title has a logical flaw. It's just worded wrongly.
It changes the whole cat :p
I rescued a shih tzu that was seized from an illegal breeder, knowing the risk, and could only watch as it slowly became less and less able to breathe. Ended up dying all-too-young from what would have been a mild respiratory illness in most other breeds.
These animals should not exist, and the fact that we keep breeding them is cruelty in itself.
But in this case selectively breeding for features that have an adverse effect on the animal’s health.
Turns out most of them do. How many breeds of dog now have hip dysplasia as a breed? Red hair in humans leads to lower pain tolerance and greater risk of sun damage to the skin. Bacterial resistance tends to make organisms that don't do as well under ideal conditions, though they can survive extremes well.
Wheeze, wheeze, wheeze, surgery, pills, death.
How lovely. Definitely people who love animals get these types, not the people who are vain, selfish, and lacking of empathy.
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True, but the point stands. The selective breeding decides the cats genes and they can be altered. Though, obviously, it’s done way before the cat is even born
yes but a flat face on a cat or dog (think pug) means the poor animal will have compromised breathing. Awful to do this to them because people think they are "cute"
I agree and I think as a society we should stop some people from breeding as well when they have dangerous genetic problems that cause them to suffer and die young.
My old roommate bought one of these. Cat had all kinds of issues and died at around seven years old. Poor drooly thing.
I don't understand how you can simultaneously love something while making it sick. Like I just love you more when you can't breath, I guess? Makes me cum? Makes me have a nut to hear you wheezing because I decided you just deserve to have a shitty fucking skull? Love to see you suffer it's adorable?
Nyxaion t1_isq3l20 wrote
I don't get what's appealing about a smushed in face. It looks like the deformity it is.