wheredMyArmourGo t1_isah5p9 wrote on October 14, 2022 at 2:10 PM

Reply to comment by Robot_Tanlines in TIL the first confirmed victim of Takata airbags was 18y/o Parham. As she drove around a car park, she lightly bumped another vehicle making the airbag inflate, sending metal pieces at such tremendous force that one hit the teen’s neck slicing open her carotid artery. She bled to death in her seat by ahm713

It took 8 years because the problem with it was the degradation of the parts. Not that they were faulty from the start. And there were much more injuries, just because they didn’t all die doesn’t mean the airbag wasn’t extremely dangerous. Not all crashes are fatal but that doesn’t mean they were better off with a faulty safety feature. The fact that anyone died means they’re not better off with a faulty airbag that might slash your major arteries or maybe “just” further injure you.

Robot_Tanlines t1_isakpw8 wrote on October 14, 2022 at 2:34 PM

Here is a more recent article than the 19.4M cited before, it’s from September 2021.

“Through various announcements, the recall has grown to include 67 million airbags from more than 42 million vehicles in the U.S.” “To date, there have been 19 deaths and more than 400 injuries because this problem in the U.S. Worldwide, NHTSA reports that there have been at least 27 deaths.”

https://www.consumerreports.org/car-recalls-defects/takata-airbag-recall-everything-you-need-to-know-a1060713669/

Putting all of the casualties together the odds of being injured are 0.00064%, that number is insanely small. If there is that chance the airbag will randomly kill you but a 30% increased chance of it saving your life or prevent major injury in a serious accident than you are better off with it than without.

> The fact that anyone died means they’re not better off with a faulty airbag that might slash your major arteries or maybe “just” further injure you.

That’s not how statistics work, when dealing with 64M airbags did they save more people than they harmed, based on all the data on air bags they saved more people. Different article I read this morning said 2,750 peoples lives were saved in the US by airbags in 2016 alone, that’s a hundred times more people saved in a year than faulty airbags killed in the 20ish years of the issue. I’m not saying the company shouldn’t recall them, I’m just saying have a faulty airbag is better than no airbag and the numbers back that up.

Are you an antivaxxer? There is an incredibly small chance the Covid vaccine can kill you, like any vaccine, but the odds are so insanely low that it’s worth the risks. There will always be at least one person who will die from it that wouldn’t have anyway and that’s just the odds that we live with when we are talking about billions of people. We are absolutely safer with the vaccine and losing a few people than we are with horrible viruses running around unchecked.