In honor of the season, I wish you all ¡Belize Navidad!

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Mesoamerican civilization is so fucking cool

For me, the fact that it was basically all in isolation makes it even cooler

What’s really crazy is that they never invented the wheel and still built that stuff

That’s a myth

It'd be a shame if someone...colonised it.

We rather doubt an y can conduct a census on ancient maya to confirm such guesses, as the Maya can do today.

Toltec, Olmec, Azteca, etc., are not isolates.

Explain pls

Such a massive L for the world and generations to come

Reading on the Aztecs and Mayans, it looked like they were on the verge of a massive political and technological breakthrough. Metal working was starting to become really common. The Mayans began producing codexes, literally written manuscripts and documents of their society with pictures and detailed descriptions. The major powers were slowly growing larger and consolidating the smaller nations around it.

If colonization happened like 200 years later, the natives may have been way more powerful and solid

Considering what happened to China, India and Japan etc, the natives wouldn't have been solid enough. Even the best of the pre-gunpowder nations struggled against the Europeans, if we give both sides 200 more years I'm not sure if the natives would not be pounded into the ground even harder.

Maybe not, but I think history would have been changed forever. Like the ripple effects would be massive. America and Mexico would have not formed when they did. Technologies would be delayed

As a history major, I think history would've been largely the same. The main thing you'd change would be Spain's rise, but Spain's rise was already pretty irrelevant in the grand scheme of things, aside from flooding Europe in silver (that when we factor in modern economics, did not actually pay for anything) and being very important when it comes to native American history only.

But take away Spain and the Aztecs, and the consequence of the Renaissance, in turn the consequence of the Crusades, would still have been felt. And that's much more important to the rise of the west compared to the Spanish colonial efforts. It would still have happened, just with someone else as the poster boy. There are many factors at play in Europe's technological rise, and the presence or absence of the Spanish colonisation would have changed little of those factors.

I can hardly Belize it

Never been to Caracol but Xubantunich was cool af to visit. Belize is a beautiful place with some really deep history.

I too am a myth

The only thing that would have helped is if Europeans didn't have a mass colonization effort for several centuries after contact so that the populations could recover from the plethora of European diseases.