stefantalpalaru t1_j6mxtjw wrote
Reply to comment by Hambredd in TIL that between 1895 and 1908 the population of the Belgian Congo declined by between 2 and 13 million due to colonial brutality and diseases caused by colonialism. by hetkleinezusje
> That's not what 'sins of the fathers' means.
That is exactly what it means.
> how about we look into your cultural history and work out what you should be feeling guilty about
Tu quoque?
Hambredd t1_j6oqs71 wrote
'The sins of the fathers are visited upon the sons'
Nothing about that suggests the descendants of criminals deserve punishment.
>Tu quoque?
I was making a play for empathy. I don't think you should suffer from the sins of your countries past, but I was hoping that would realise how stupid that is in concept if you thought about what it would be like for you.
stefantalpalaru t1_j6oriai wrote
> I don't think you should suffer from the sins of your countries past
It's unavoidable, and so is benefiting from them. Go walk around Brussels sometime.
Hambredd t1_j6ortpx wrote
So what's your solution?
stefantalpalaru t1_j6osga4 wrote
> So what's your solution?
Awareness.
Hambredd t1_j6osmwe wrote
Education isn't a punishment
How would you make Brussels suffer?
stefantalpalaru t1_j6ot8bi wrote
> Education isn't a punishment
Isn't it, though?
Hambredd t1_j6othbl wrote
Are you trolling me? Of course it isn't, it's a net positive. A punishment would be denying Belgium's education and sending the education budget to the Congo
stefantalpalaru t1_j6ovp0v wrote
> it's a net positive
You think Germans enjoy learning about Nazi Germany? You think the French enjoy learning about Napoleon?
Hambredd t1_j6own06 wrote
No more than I enjoyed learning about Nazi Germany. But learning about horrible things doesn't make your life worse. And hope they understand the world (you aside) doesn't blame them for the Nazis.
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