Submitted by willynillyslide t3_124rsmz in vermont
FyuckerFjord t1_je2sb6y wrote
That store voted to unionize and then all the employee leaders quit for other jobs. The DM had it in for the store manager and eventually fired her for failing to prevent the union vote (though blamed it on failure to staff the store - a store no one wants to work at because the pay is less than other stores that didn't unionize).
As it stands, none of the current employees are stepping up to start talks so it was a big fucking bust that cost a bunch of people their jobs. Now that store has none of the recent raises that the other stores have, and there's no way they're getting any union benefits within the next two years because they can't get anyone to head the talks with Starbucks - not that Starbucks has agreed with ANY store in the US to give union contracts.
The best thing that can happen to that lpcation is it shuts down.
Azr431 t1_je3i3hc wrote
This is what happens sometimes in an economy where unions are thin. Not enough inertia. Don’t blame the people organizing, blame the shit capitalist culture that necessitates the union
FyuckerFjord t1_je3ws7g wrote
I'm pro-union (except for police unions) but understand unions won't work in industries with revolving door employment - that's what's happening here and with some supermarkets that have unionized. Unions work best in skill occupations. But everyone can try to unionize - just expect bad results if the company sees swarms of "disposable" employees lined up behind you waiting to work the job for 5 months before leaving. The company has no reason to kowtow, and that's just how it is. Sucks.
Azr431 t1_je4mxyu wrote
That’s a reasonable position.
If the wages were better, the revolving door effect wouldn’t be present as much. Perhaps they accepted less than they should have because their leverage was low or they undervalued themselves. These one-off outlier shops are really hard to gauge the metrics that drive the outcomes. I think unions should be present from the most unskilled jobs to the most. That’s the only thing that will ever shift the power dynamic from the bourgeoisie class to the people.
FyuckerFjord t1_je4uu77 wrote
That's the thing here: Starbucks hasn't even started negotiations with ANY of the nationwide shops that unionized. They simply raised pay for all shops except ones that voted to unionize, telling these "union shops" they'd have to wait for negotiations to work out their pay raises.
In particular to the Shelburne location: all the union-planning employees have left (revolving door) and none of the current employees want to step up to represent the store during talks...not that Starbucks is even ready to talk.
Azr431 t1_je4x31i wrote
Classic union-busting behaviors from their virulently anti-union POS CEO
FyuckerFjord t1_je50omo wrote
Schultz is appearing before Bernie's committee today to answer for just that.
JustMakingChange t1_je502vy wrote
you can't pick and choose unions. if your for unions then it's unions period. not unions* (except police).. thats how bullshit like this happens.. thats like saying I like all blacks* (except the light skin onces.. they got to be in the house) .. like wtf
FyuckerFjord t1_je519f4 wrote
No, fuck that. Cops use their union to literally get away with murder while keeping their jobs and pensions.
And fuck you for trying to compare that to slavery and racism. There's no such thing as a blue life - you can take the shirt off. Black people can't take their skin color off, and cops are shooting them because of it and using unions to get away with it.
Wow. The lion the witch and the audacity of this bitch to try to compare indoor and outdoor slaves to being against how police unions sanction murder.
JustMakingChange t1_je5690p wrote
your fake outrage is sad. I'm black. I don't much care for police but I also don't agree with being a hypocrite. what you wrote up there is complete nonsense.. soo please continue with your fake outrage...
FyuckerFjord t1_je5cew6 wrote
Fake outrage? Pfft. I grew up in the South Bronx where we survived the cops more than we did the streets. My eyes were forced open literally at gunpoint on playgrounds as a kid.
You may be black, but you're also a fucking moron if you don't see the problem with police unions. Take that shit to St. Elsewhere.
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