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vtjohnhurt t1_ita5c5x wrote

Reply to comment by ThisistheInfiniteIs in Vermont town employee who quietly lowered the fluoride in water has resigned by Hanginon

What criminal statute would he be charged under?

NYTimes reports that he provided correct numbers to the Health Department who published incorrect numbers in their public reports.

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ThisistheInfiniteIs t1_ita9fjw wrote

This is gross negligence of a public employee that harmed the health of the citizens that he was charged with protecting. He lied to the people of this town for a decade about his negligent decision to cause them health injuries, which he was clearly not qualified to do. This is a dereliction of his duty to the public office his town entrusted him with.

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Electrical-Bed8577 t1_itdfo2a wrote

On investigation, it is clear that the morally derided and stripped employee reported his data all the way up the chain, including sourcing quality concerns and ever present plus emerging data on neurotoxicity and diminished capacity in children. Should they all go to prison? Why just one lowly head rolling? Because he articulated poorly while being verbally attacked and the mob mentality fed into it? Because he looks different, even though his employment record over 37 years with Richmond is sparkling? Where is the real accountability?

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ThisistheInfiniteIs t1_itdj0jn wrote

No, he lied to his town for a decade. They trusted him to maintain an important health and safety program and instead he made medical decisions for them, despite not have a medical degree, and destroyed their right to benefit from it.

It's both a clear case of fraud by a public employee and an example of someone practicing medicine without a license.

This fool needs to be charged for both of these serious offences.

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vtjohnhurt t1_itaea4t wrote

Are those offenses anywhere in the criminal code of justice? Maybe somebody can sue him civilly for damages.

If he had put poison in the water, he would have broken the law. The water he treated was biologically safe.not contaminated.

Dereliction of Duty might be part of military code of justice.

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ThisistheInfiniteIs t1_itafuo4 wrote

He lied to his entire town for a decade about the tooth decay protection program that he was charged with maintaining. He made a conscious decision over and over for 10 years to lie to his fellow citizens and tampered with the dose and put his entire town at a significantly heightened risk of a very serious disease.

He was in charge of a vital health program that the town was expecting was being taken care of and paying for with their tax dollars.

He recklessly and selfishly chose to lie about what he was doing to get away with it. He defrauded the entire town of this health and safety program. That is a criminal act.

It is clearly a decade fraud, with health injury resulting.

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Electrical-Bed8577 t1_itdsuyr wrote

Since 2011. He reported his concern up the chain, regarding supply chain and quality and necessity, based on current commercial and publicly available fluoride product data and emerging scientific data on fluorine products. Those who he reported to then reported up to the state. He was not a public figure and did not report to the public. This is a systemic issue.

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ThisistheInfiniteIs t1_itdtsrp wrote

"It was far less than 10 years. He reported his concern up the chain, regarding supply chain and quality and necessity, based on current commercial and publicly available fluoride product data and emerging scientific data on fluorine products. Those who he reported to then reported up to the state. He was not a public figure and did not report to the public. This is a systemic issue."

You didn't even bother to read the story apparently, he made a medical decision that he was not qualified to do, which harmed the residents he was in charge of protecting and lied, over and over again for a decade about it:

"Richmond water superintendent Kendall Chamberlin disclosed in his five-page resignation letter, submitted Monday, that fluoride levels have not been in the state-recommended range for over a decade — instead of nearly four years, as the state had recently disclosed."

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Real-Pierre-Delecto2 t1_itbgndl wrote

> heightened risk of a very serious disease.

What disease would that be?

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YOurAreWr0ng t1_itbo1e6 wrote

Gingivitis

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Real-Pierre-Delecto2 t1_itccfit wrote

No. Fluoride does nothing to prevent plaque regular brushing does that. Plaque is what causes gingivitis it is a bacteria. Fluoride works on the tooth enamel not bacteria so the question remains. What disease does low fluoride levels cause? I suspect an answer won't be coming as most likely it was completely made up.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gingivitis

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ThisistheInfiniteIs t1_ite23tt wrote

It is right in the article, which you apparently didn't read
"...in the recommended amounts, fluoride in water decreases
cavities or tooth decay by about 25%, according to the U.S.
Centers for Disease Control"

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Real-Pierre-Delecto2 t1_itg1boj wrote

Thats it you people are just dumb cunts period. Cavities and tooth decay are not diseases you ignorant fool.

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ThisistheInfiniteIs t1_itag8c4 wrote

How about choosing to practice medicine without a license for starters.

He chose to ignore the dose recommended by state and federal health professionals and substitute his own, then he lied about it.

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Electrical-Bed8577 t1_itdh381 wrote

But he didn't lie. He stumbled over his words and made a fool of himself while being verbally attacked. He also followed scientific practice after properly reporting his findings up the chain, repeatedly. His findings were supply chain issues, quality issues, health concerns. Had he stepped out publicly on his own, he would have lost his job for doing so. Initially I also thought he had Breached Public Trust and operated beyond his scope. However, investigation reveals that he did not do this in a vacuum.

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Electrical-Bed8577 t1_iteuyyp wrote

vtjohn-, it's good to see that you're diligent in your truth finding, unlike the interesting experiment here of down thumbers. This (what you stated as reported in NYT and several other outlets) is corroborated by his superior(s) statements, claiming ignorance of the prescribed values for what amounts to their subscription to the state program in order to gain federal(?) funding.

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