Thor5858 t1_it127kc wrote on October 20, 2022 at 3:52 AM

Reply to comment by vermontaltaccount in Why I'm voting yes on Prop 2 & 5 by ButtonFactoryJoe

The counter argument is “any law restricting abortion causes further barriers in scenarios where abortion is necessary for the survival of the mother, or where a kid was raped and wishes to abort” nothing else matters. We’re also right about the rest of it, but unless someone can look you in the eye and say the believe a 13 year old who was raped should be forced to also give birth, there is no argument supporting abortion restriction. Every restriction is a barrier. Every barrier means someone will die or be fucked up forever.

vermontaltaccount t1_it28sbd wrote on October 20, 2022 at 12:35 PM

>unless someone can look you in the eye and say the believe a 13 year old who was raped should be forced to also give birth, there is no argument supporting abortion restriction

That's the thing; pro-lifers who believe it is murder WILL say that.

Thor5858 t1_itcv63y wrote on October 22, 2022 at 5:51 PM

Fortunately, a lot of them actually do agree in those cases. Another example is when the mothers life is threatened and the baby will be a stillbirth. As long as concrete situations where abortion is literally the only option are brought up, there is no counter argument.