hideous-boy t1_iy3xrr1 wrote
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this is drawing the same false equivalency though
one end of the spectrum refuses to have civil conversation because the other side thinks it's entirely valid to debate their right to exist and live like everyone else.
the other end of the spectrum refuses because they actively threaten marginalized groups and are responsible for a vast majority of the domestic terrorism vs these groups
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5teerPike t1_iy43duv wrote
See that's the problem though, one side is actually disgusting and the other is not.
Edit: can this "both sides" guy ensure an environment where I won't be called slurs, or worse, for being queer & Jewish?
Can they explain how it's valid to call me a gr**mer just for being non binary? Despite the fact that this is just plain libel/ slander?
After the ensuing conversation I'm going to assume the answer to my questions is a No.
Edit 2: it won't let me respond to another comment, so I'll just add it here
Racism, sexism, anti semetism, and hating LGBT people is disgusting.
And asking me "do you think you will win anyone over" is assuming I haven't ever tried being nice. I have. It doesn't work when the other person says "fuck your feelings".
Oh and these aren't teams. This isn't some game to me. Personal politics fall on a spectrum, and I just don't believe in the "both sides" horseshoe fallacy. Many people I know who aren't disgusting have views I don't agree with, and I have thoughtful, kind conversations with them nonetheless. It helps a lot when the core beliefs of the person you disagree with don't involve dehumanizing myself or others.
Links added. Facts cited.
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you_give_me_coupon t1_iy90di5 wrote
> See that's the problem though, one side is actually disgusting and the other is not.
Without getting into whether or not you're right - let's say you are - what's your intent here? Do you think you will win anyone over to your team by calling them disgusting? Or is that not the point, and this is aimed at your own team?
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