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ProLicks t1_iwlxtkg wrote

Those signs serve one purpose only, to get them elected. If they think that standing for office here doesn't involve picking up after your campaign, I don't think they have the correct mentality to take responsibility for spending my tax money.

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thisoneisnotasbad t1_iwpgf9i wrote

You already said you can’t take them off private land and towns are already empowered to remove them from public rite of ways so are you advocating for trespassing and theft of private property? Explain it like I’m 5. How does a sign cleanup driven by a candidate work? That is the candidate you want? The one who steals other people’s property?

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ProLicks t1_iwpl5cx wrote

If a campaign places a campaign sign on your property, they come back and remove them. There are literally volunteer groups on (well run) campaigns that do this exact thing - usually the same people placing the signs requested online in the first place. Because they are they are representatives of the campaign for which the sign was printed, the understanding is that they will also remove any signs that they place.

The person who posted here is not a campaign volunteer or the landowner, they are a neighbor - a completely uninvolved party. That person has no right to remove any signs from anyone else’s land.

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thisoneisnotasbad t1_iwpnqlx wrote

So a volunteer run program. That makes sense. That in no way makes the candidate responsible though. The responsibility is still 100% on the sign owner to opt in and uncollected sign would still be a reflection on the individual, not the candidate.

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ProLicks t1_iwpob54 wrote

Wrong. These are campaign volunteers who are organized at the behest of the candidate. Just let it go.

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thisoneisnotasbad t1_iwpomnn wrote

Ahhh, so now you are saying you won't vote for a candidates whose volunteers don't do this? That is not what you said originally. You are changing your story now.

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ProLicks t1_iwpqfwe wrote

>Ahhh, so now you are saying ...

LOL, you've got me now, detective!

You're correct in your assertion, but I haven't changed anything with my argument. Because the candidate has control over who volunteers on their campaigns, and who they appoint to different campaigns. As you so cogently pointed out earlier, the candidate doesn't do all of the work themselves, they have people that they pay as well as people who volunteer their time in support of their candidacy...but in the event that the any of those people fail to meet the standards of conduct set by a campaign, the candidate is responsible for policing those actions. You haven't caught me in a loophole, and I haven't changed my argument friend - I wouldn't vote for a candidate whose volunteers didn't do this, because that candidate is probably terrible at managing the people supposedly working for them - they can't even coordinate volunteers to pick up their own garbage, how are they going to run a government?!

Look, this has been an absolute hoot, but I'm done explaining how electoral politics work. Please ask your civics teacher, or if you're someone who has already gotten beyond the reach of our educational system, volunteer on a campaign. I've done it multiple times over many decades - it's the source of most of this understanding - and it's taught me a lot.

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thisoneisnotasbad t1_iwprcqp wrote

Ohhh your done explaining now? That's very mature of you. Multiple times over multiple decades huh.

You changed your story twice at this point and again you still have not said anything. You seem very ignorant of how things work. What campain did you work on.

Can you cite any candidate who does this statewide? I kinda doubt it.

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