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quercusshumardii t1_iystv1r wrote

New England’s national forests are some of the best managed Silviculture in the country just saying

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buried_lede t1_iyszfep wrote

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quercusshumardii t1_iytkcqp wrote

Having worked/studied these patches, intentional and ecologically informed treatments would hugely benefit these areas. This is mainly because the state’s forests have 1 or 2 dominant age classes in the canopy. Eastern old growth is characterized by a complex structure and high amounts of large fallen deadwood in addition to large old trees. UVM actually developed a forestry treatment called “Structural Complexity Enhancement” to help forests get on a better trajectory to old growth structure. It’s been very successful and used on public & private land in Vermont. It’s widely understood by land managers that if you clear cut, you will get a stand of unmarketable beech and red maple growing up. Thus there’s a desire for more complex and sustainable silviculture.

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taylordobbs t1_iyt2nws wrote

funny phrasing, because by definition a forest isn't a patch and a patch isn't a forest.

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Upthespurs1882 t1_iyv639v wrote

This spring, my buddy and I were hiking snake mountain and talking about how much we’d like to walk through some old growth, only to read later there’s some on the back of the mt. Oh well, next time!

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quercusshumardii t1_iywsn1o wrote

You might not even know you’re in old growth bc a lot of the oldest trees aren’t that big. Red spruce and hemlock can stay small in the shade for a loooong time.

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immutable_truth t1_iyto38k wrote

I swear some Vermonters need to live somewhere more controversial to feed their injustice fetish.

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Atomic_Watermelon666 t1_iytz8jq wrote

Fuck off. They need to leave the trees alone. That "injustice fetish" is the reason why vermont is nicer than other places, less pollution, more trees small business over box boxes and change... that fetish as you call it is called community and its what happens when people care more about eachother and their home than they care about industry cutting all the trees down for profit. So fuck you and take your attitude back to NY, CT, MA, or NJ or wherever they make people like you.

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InterestingAd2575 t1_iyua24g wrote

It's important to properly manage our forests. Look at the cluster fuck California is!

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Eagle_Arm t1_iyuqibf wrote

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Atomic_Watermelon666 t1_iz4sqc6 wrote

Fuck off back to the city.

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Eagle_Arm t1_iz51077 wrote

Haha, what city would that be? My big Vermont city of 1,300 people that I grew up in or my current MASSIVE Vermont city of 17K?

Such large cities! Just because you have bad ideas doesn't mean people who disagree aren't from here. Also, being from Vermont doesn't make you right...just because.

Your self-righteousness and ideas are bad. Full stop.

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Atomic_Watermelon666 t1_iz51mgf wrote

So you're justa clown who doesn't mind industry fucking up our state, got it.

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Eagle_Arm t1_iz55sf9 wrote

Haha, so now that I'm not a flatlander? I'm a clown?

Who's the industry? The state of Vermont.

So you have no idea what you're talking about? Got it.

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Atomic_Watermelon666 t1_iz5b4km wrote

Clear-cutting in national forests for profit is wrong. They just cut down every tree in the state less than 150 years ago.they should let the trees grow. Fuck the paper industry. You want to selectively cut and manage? That's fine, clear cutting in the parks shouldn't be a thing.

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fraxinus2000 t1_iz7yg2f wrote

Clear-cutting for profit doesn’t happen on National Forests. And National Forests aren’t “parks”, and neither are State Forests or Wildlife Management Areas..

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Eagle_Arm t1_iz5sdge wrote

So you have no idea what they are doing with this project huh? It also seems you don't know anything about forest management huh? Maybe those with that background do know what they are doing here, so easy there keyboard warrior.

I guess that person's initial comment about people having an injustice fetish was pretty spot on.

There is nothing wrong here, but you desperate desire there to be one and will argue about something you don't know anything about. I'm sure there is someone out there that needs to be protected online, go find them.

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immutable_truth t1_iyu3qwz wrote

Lol calm down

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Atomic_Watermelon666 t1_iyu65xm wrote

No. Go back to skyscraper land and enjoy your view of garbage barges.

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immutable_truth t1_iyudd1o wrote

Nope. Please try reading some of the highest upvoted comments to realize why this posting/protest is looking to stir a pot that doesn’t need stirring.

I love Vermont and will continue to enjoy its natural beauty.

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Eagle_Arm t1_iyuqln9 wrote

Tell me you can't make an original comment without telling me you can't make an original comment.

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Longjumping_Vast_797 t1_iyvcjm0 wrote

Yep. Enough of the misdirected outrage. This makes me want to take a megaphone to their protest to counter. Fucking morons.

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