Submitted by Johnny9Toes t3_zbqdku in vermont
quercusshumardii t1_iystv1r wrote
New England’s national forests are some of the best managed Silviculture in the country just saying
buried_lede t1_iyszfep wrote
They’ve got some, as they put it, “patches” of old growth
https://www.vermontpublic.org/programs/2019-06-07/does-vermont-have-any-patches-of-old-growth-forest
quercusshumardii t1_iytkcqp wrote
Having worked/studied these patches, intentional and ecologically informed treatments would hugely benefit these areas. This is mainly because the state’s forests have 1 or 2 dominant age classes in the canopy. Eastern old growth is characterized by a complex structure and high amounts of large fallen deadwood in addition to large old trees. UVM actually developed a forestry treatment called “Structural Complexity Enhancement” to help forests get on a better trajectory to old growth structure. It’s been very successful and used on public & private land in Vermont. It’s widely understood by land managers that if you clear cut, you will get a stand of unmarketable beech and red maple growing up. Thus there’s a desire for more complex and sustainable silviculture.
taylordobbs t1_iyt2nws wrote
funny phrasing, because by definition a forest isn't a patch and a patch isn't a forest.
Upthespurs1882 t1_iyv639v wrote
This spring, my buddy and I were hiking snake mountain and talking about how much we’d like to walk through some old growth, only to read later there’s some on the back of the mt. Oh well, next time!
quercusshumardii t1_iywsn1o wrote
You might not even know you’re in old growth bc a lot of the oldest trees aren’t that big. Red spruce and hemlock can stay small in the shade for a loooong time.
immutable_truth t1_iyto38k wrote
I swear some Vermonters need to live somewhere more controversial to feed their injustice fetish.
Atomic_Watermelon666 t1_iytz8jq wrote
Fuck off. They need to leave the trees alone. That "injustice fetish" is the reason why vermont is nicer than other places, less pollution, more trees small business over box boxes and change... that fetish as you call it is called community and its what happens when people care more about eachother and their home than they care about industry cutting all the trees down for profit. So fuck you and take your attitude back to NY, CT, MA, or NJ or wherever they make people like you.
InterestingAd2575 t1_iyua24g wrote
It's important to properly manage our forests. Look at the cluster fuck California is!
Atomic_Watermelon666 t1_iz4sqc6 wrote
Fuck off back to the city.
Eagle_Arm t1_iz51077 wrote
Haha, what city would that be? My big Vermont city of 1,300 people that I grew up in or my current MASSIVE Vermont city of 17K?
Such large cities! Just because you have bad ideas doesn't mean people who disagree aren't from here. Also, being from Vermont doesn't make you right...just because.
Your self-righteousness and ideas are bad. Full stop.
Atomic_Watermelon666 t1_iz51mgf wrote
So you're justa clown who doesn't mind industry fucking up our state, got it.
Eagle_Arm t1_iz55sf9 wrote
Haha, so now that I'm not a flatlander? I'm a clown?
Who's the industry? The state of Vermont.
So you have no idea what you're talking about? Got it.
Atomic_Watermelon666 t1_iz5b4km wrote
Clear-cutting in national forests for profit is wrong. They just cut down every tree in the state less than 150 years ago.they should let the trees grow. Fuck the paper industry. You want to selectively cut and manage? That's fine, clear cutting in the parks shouldn't be a thing.
fraxinus2000 t1_iz7yg2f wrote
Clear-cutting for profit doesn’t happen on National Forests. And National Forests aren’t “parks”, and neither are State Forests or Wildlife Management Areas..
Eagle_Arm t1_iz5sdge wrote
So you have no idea what they are doing with this project huh? It also seems you don't know anything about forest management huh? Maybe those with that background do know what they are doing here, so easy there keyboard warrior.
I guess that person's initial comment about people having an injustice fetish was pretty spot on.
There is nothing wrong here, but you desperate desire there to be one and will argue about something you don't know anything about. I'm sure there is someone out there that needs to be protected online, go find them.
immutable_truth t1_iyu3qwz wrote
Lol calm down
Atomic_Watermelon666 t1_iyu65xm wrote
No. Go back to skyscraper land and enjoy your view of garbage barges.
immutable_truth t1_iyudd1o wrote
Nope. Please try reading some of the highest upvoted comments to realize why this posting/protest is looking to stir a pot that doesn’t need stirring.
I love Vermont and will continue to enjoy its natural beauty.
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Eagle_Arm t1_iyuqln9 wrote
Tell me you can't make an original comment without telling me you can't make an original comment.
Atomic_Watermelon666 t1_iyu1rqp wrote
Thanks for the award kind stranger.
Longjumping_Vast_797 t1_iyvcjm0 wrote
Yep. Enough of the misdirected outrage. This makes me want to take a megaphone to their protest to counter. Fucking morons.
fraxinus2000 t1_iz7z0ui wrote
Society of American Foresters weigh in with a recent comment on ‘proforestation’
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