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buildandgrow t1_j2wlj0g wrote

I think OP was roughly making a point about the imprecision of language used here and hasn’t made any points that would call into question the realities of climate change. IMHO, precision is terribly important when we talk about this because we stand to lose people when we make statements such as ‘x weather event was caused by climate change’ or, as has been said in other words, ‘a warm snap is blamed on climate change’… Because then it’s just as easy for an ignoramus to state the inverse when it’s cold. None of those statements are data driven.

That’s how I took the post. I understand this is a sensitive issue for all of us but we could all do better in encouraging conversation about how to effectively communicate it.

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Outrageous-Outside61 OP t1_j2wmbam wrote

Thanks. That is honestly exactly the point I’m trying to make. Not once have I dismissed the reality of climate change in any of my comments, on the contrary as a diversified farmer in Vermont climate change scares the shit out of me and I’m already seeing the need to change practices to adapt for the inevitable.

But it’s equally frustrating to me to see people dismiss climate change on a cold day as it is for people to say “look at this climate change” on a hot day. Weather isn’t climate, and as you said, precision in language is extremely important. But heaven forbid I say anything to that point or I’ll be downvoted and have a million assumptions made about my politics, age, and general ignorance.

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buildandgrow t1_j2x470r wrote

Respectfully disagree that it’s a good idea to chalk things up to ignorance and ignore it. I hate to go down the whole ‘in a democracy… informed electorate… yada yada’ thing so we can table that… but if you want to be taken seriously and not just get an agreeing nod from buddies at the bar or at the barbershop then I’d say it’s important for respectful critique as to bend your statements closer to the accurate truth. In this case, not a climate scientist, but it’s actually a major difference (climate vs weather). Like the difference between the type of car and the specific model. I’m sure you could come up with a major difference in your specialties that appear to an outsider superficial.

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