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Betweenthelies13 t1_j685gut wrote

Just as inflation is coming down China's re-opening will cause a new wave of demand

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Hacking_the_Gibson t1_j688zeb wrote

This will be offset by the increase in production.

Chinese consumers spend like $5T annually while Americans spend like $16T.

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RockyattheTop t1_j68t2mb wrote

It’s not about the goods, it’s all about that sweet sweet oil baby. Only so much to go around and them manufacturing requires a lot of it. Add in a weakening dollar and oil prices surge. Oil prices going up means everything goes up. Inflation ain’t done fucking you yet, it was just taking a Gatorade break after fucking you for a long time.

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Hacking_the_Gibson t1_j69jpmj wrote

China buys their oil from Russia at a deeply discounted rate.

I suspect that the oil impact will be minimal.

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RockyattheTop t1_j69kkpk wrote

Doesn’t matter, it’s still the supply. Also there is a reason they were meeting with the Saudis recently. Now that being said if we go full recession it’s not going to matter as demand for oil will plummet. If you’re playing this play, important to have tight stop losses.

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Alternative-Paint-46 t1_j6bmuan wrote

It does matter. Countries that aren’t sanctioning Russia, are getting their oil from them cheap.

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reliquid1220 t1_j6cvnc4 wrote

Yet oil price for the rest of the world is going up for the past month.

Op is talking about the supply/demand curves. Sanctions etc shifts the curves up or down but they have to meet somewhere. That juncture is going up in dollars.

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Alternative-Paint-46 t1_j6cy96s wrote

From what I’m reading, it doesn’t appear to be going up for Russia. They’re still selling their oil for a large bargain.

“Russian oil traditionally sells at a discount to international benchmarks such as Brent. The discount, has widened since the imposition of sanctions and now stands at some $25-$30 per barrel to dated Brent.”

https://www.reuters.com/business/energy/putin-says-oil-price-cap-will-not-create-problems-russian-budget-2023-01-11/

AND

https://www.reuters.com/business/energy/russian-oil-sold-india-below-price-cap-buyers-market-2022-12-14/

As winter sets in and demand for oil increases, the limited supply will increase prices worldwide, but it may not increase the price of Russias oil nearly as much.

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kingbitchtits t1_j69cezh wrote

That's because our economy is 70 percent consumerism and 30 percent production.

Economical warfare, anyone?

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