Any place in this city that designates itself as a "eclectic" or "upscale" is garbage in reality. We don't need a hard to get to venue, or a snobbish wine bar. Jesus Christ let people be themselves and have a good time, I don't want to have to worry about what kind of "crowd" the place attracts. Give me cheap drinks and a place that isn't packed to the gills and I'm sold.