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Basas t1_ja568m9 wrote

Reply to comment by Reptard77 in Putin casts war as a battle for Russias survival by R1ckCrypto

I think his propaganda team would just have to work extra hours and he would be alright.

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twonius t1_ja57elv wrote

Yeah the Russians dont seem to want a return to the 90s. The aftermath of overthrowing putin would be a fiasco.

He might just find some juicy scapegoats, consolidate more power and move on.

The worry that prompted this war was that a liberalized Ukraine would make Russians ask uncomfortable questions but i think hes sucessfully driven a wedge between them at this point.

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Dreamer812 t1_ja7hkvh wrote

Pretty much this. People just too scared; tired of revolutions; don't care so he can basically rule for as long, as he can. And if/when he will be thrown out of Ukraine, propaganda machine can just say: "To manage peace in the world, we have decided to let those territories go as whole NATO is fighting us and we would never fight a nuclear war with them. We are peacemakers, liberators - not killers of the whole world. *some patriotic speech about ancestors fighting fascism/nazism in WW2 and falling of western civilization under Nazism from Ukraine"

It's 1984 over here. Full-scale shit show

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keragoth t1_ja8j5p9 wrote

I think a whole lot of Russian citizens have been "quiet quitting" since about ten years after the Soviet collapse. They have seen the massive corruption of the Soviet heirarchy, combined with the economic octopus of the black and grey markets merge into a system of looters and absconders and resource-partitioning oligarchs to a point where American corporatist capitalism looks like free market anarchy by comparision. They have checked out, ducked their heads, and "gone along to get along" so long that they have no tools to respond to pressure from above. This affects Putin, because by doing the bare minimum, or doing their jobs only on paper, they have allowed or even actively particiapated in a dissection, hollowing out and selling off of all the things that in Putin's view made the country great. He tried to attack a foreign state with a paper army, and now he knows he must win before it collapses of its oen weight and takes him--and a lot of the Russian system of governement--with it. Riding a tiger is only dangerous when you try to get off. Riding a Paper Tiger is dangerous when the rest of the tigers cease to be fooled.

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URAPNS t1_ja5h8za wrote

That's alot of open windows, but I agree with you.

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SiarX t1_ja8j7r7 wrote

TV propaganda does not work on his cronies, though. Coup is a possible threat.

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