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MMBerlin t1_ja7ibpg wrote

This statement is intellectually poor: of course there are other ways of ending this war, too.

For instance, Russia could return all its military behind its internationally recognized borders - war would be over immediately. Or Ukraine could stop fighting - the war would be over too, as well as Ukraine as an independent nation.

I can't fathom why SA, a former colony, cannot understand the wish of ukrainians to live as an independent nation and not as a russian colony.

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RicketyEdge t1_ja7js3d wrote

>I can't fathom why SA, a former colony, cannot understand the wish of ukrainians to live as an independent nation and not as a russian colony.

It’s more the ANC than South Africa.

The ANC and Moscow are buddies, Moscow funded/equipped them during Apartheid.

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MMBerlin t1_ja7k8v7 wrote

>Moscow funded/equipped them during Apartheid.

But actually it was the Soviet Union who supported the ANC, and Ukraine was part of it. So why the sympathies for the dominant aggressor and not the smaller victim?

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Omryn814 t1_ja7t823 wrote

Same reason you see people on here equate the USSR and Russia: revisionist history (revisionist lies that the current Russian regime supports) and ignorance of the internal workings of the USSR. For instance, the majority of time the USSR existed it was under non-Russian leadership and many of its heroes were similarly diverse.

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useless_mlungu t1_jaa214i wrote

This is a commonly misunderstood fact by the majority of non-South Africans. And for those saying "yes but that was an agreement between the ANC and the former USSR", well the ANC and modern day Russia don't see it that way.

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ZeroBS-Policy t1_ja84b1g wrote

This is exactly why the Reagan administration supported apartheid. The ANC was in bed with the Soviets.

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abdefff t1_ja8egnt wrote

Reagan didn't really supported apartheid,he was just reluctant to impose sanctions against SA regime as long as they fought pro - soviet forces in southern Africa.

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JimBean t1_ja7m975 wrote

> is intellectually poor

Our government (SA) is intellectually challenged.

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saoupla t1_ja7oahs wrote

Or the US can activate some sleeper agents within the Kremlin to dispose of the putain.

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MMBerlin t1_ja7l00n wrote

The war started when russian military entered Crimea ("little green men") and Donbas ("separatists") in 2014, not a second earlier.

And all ethnic minorities were allowed to vote in Ukraine, on all levels of administration, as long as they live under the administration of the ukrainian government or are registered with ukrainian embassies in foreign countries.

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is0ph t1_ja7lc9h wrote

To the east of Ukraine is a huge state that has colonized many nations and is stealing their oil and gas to make its oligarchy hideously rich and fund further colonization.

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