Submitted by Murky_Interview3502 t3_1277z87 in worldnews
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OneForAllOfHumanity t1_jed2gck wrote
If you are invading another country, you don't get to participate in international sporting competition. End of story.
AdditionalFun3 t1_jed2oil wrote
Not that I support this war but the US invaded Iraq in 2003 and the Athens Olympics was in 2004 and the US participated in those Olympics
theshogun02 t1_jed32eu wrote
If you are invading other countries then you are NOT a part of the international Olympic Committee. Your presence is against everything the Olympics stands for.
OneForAllOfHumanity t1_jed36vn wrote
And they should not have been allowed to participate for the exact same reason...
phaedrus71 t1_jed38ln wrote
Yea but made up weapons of mass destruction weren’t there. Maybe there was a bigger picture?!
AdditionalFun3 t1_jed3csk wrote
Exactly...
EightandaHalf-Tails t1_jed3dia wrote
The IOC is as corrupt as FIFA
Working_Ad_4650 t1_jed3zo7 wrote
Anything deplirable about war crimes, or is that ok?
kgro t1_jed42el wrote
Bruh, I see how Russian bribe money is as sweet as the nectar coming straight out of that bee’s ass, but at least don’t make it that obvious. We all can see you
GodlordHerus t1_jed4dma wrote
That's the issue
There are 70+ active conflicts and wars. If Russia is removed then they should do the same for all of them. No exception
djk1964 t1_jed4qe6 wrote
The IOB ( international Olympic bubble) is obviously not part on the normal world
OneForAllOfHumanity t1_jed4zxw wrote
There needs to be a threshold for conflict to cause a ban. Border skirmishes and internal strife are not the same as mobilizing hundreds of thousands of combatants and invading a country, bombing civilians and kidnapping children. There are valid reason for armed conflict, sometimes it's the government that's doing what it has to do, sometimes it's the rebels that are fighting an oppressive government.
I'm pretty sure that at a minimum, if your leader has been charged with war crimes, you're over that threshold...
(And yes, GW should have been charged too)
Orqee t1_jed5cb0 wrote
Like China did with Vietnam, Nepal, Korea,…. Like Russia did with well most of the east Europe, Finland , Afghanistan, Lybia…..
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User767676 t1_jed971q wrote
“The goal of the Olympic Movement is to contribute to building a peaceful and better world by educating youth through sport practiced without discrimination of any kind and in the Olympic spirit, which requires mutual understanding with a spirit of friendship, solidarity and fair play.” —Olympic Values per the IOC website.
That statement seems close to the opposite of what Russia is doing to Ukraine right now.
sla797 t1_jed9bq9 wrote
It’s a dead heat between FIFA and the IOC as to which organisation can appear the most deplorable. Any autocratic regime can buy these fuckers. We need to take sport back from the criminals.
interkeyty t1_jed9ewn wrote
China didn't even participate in the Olympics when it invaded Vietnam so that part of the comment doesn't even work lol
China invaded Nepal? Source please.
US invaded Korea as well not to mention the numerous Central and South American countries
America and friends literally boycotted the 1980 Olympics because of the USSR invasion of Afghanistan
saltyseaweed1 t1_jeda1dr wrote
US invaded Korea? I need sources on that, please.
interkeyty t1_jeda8cp wrote
The Korean war
saltyseaweed1 t1_jedaf61 wrote
US did not invade Korea in the Korean war. Where are you getting your history? NK invaded SK. The UN forces, authorized by the security counsel, fought back the NK invaders.
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bofpisrebof t1_jedczl4 wrote
Fuck the ioc
macross1984 t1_jedd5r6 wrote
Time have changed.
IOC cannot keep on hiding behind sports and politics are separate and modify that from now on to any country initiating war in the future is automatic suspension for being aggressor.
In the past, US should have been suspended for invading Iraq but of course that did not happen.
saltyseaweed1 t1_jeddl95 wrote
China invaded Korea when it crossed the Korean border and attacked Korean and UN forces in October of 1950.
UN forces were involved in the Korean War until the day of the armistice and did not complete their withdrawal from the peninsula until 1956. So besides being completely wrong, I'm not even certain of them point you're attempting to make.
USSR explicitly authorized NK's invasion of Korea, so not much changed i guess, except they won't make the dumb mistake of boycotting the security council.
Some_Development3447 t1_jedfc03 wrote
Are you a beyblade? Because your spin is excellent
Some_Development3447 t1_jedfijk wrote
Isn’t it the other way around? Warring nations but aside their differences for 2 weeks to participate in the games. That was the original intention. Not that I want Russia at the games but literally, that’s what the Olympics did.
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saltyseaweed1 t1_jedinss wrote
Nope, it's not an invasion. Do you even know what an "invasion" is? The Republic of Korea had formally requested US military assistance and the two nations had already been allies from before the war. Hopefully your head is not so twisted that you can recognize the difference between an invasion versus a military assistance to help booster defensive efforts against an invasion. I must say, though, my hope there is not very high.
As for China, Chinese military received a assistance from the Chinese government and was a national army in all practical aspect. Are you going to deny that? Plus--and more importantly--the Chinese Army was helping an invader, as opposed to helping a defensive effort against an invasion that NK initiated. Rather a key distinction that you keep choosing to not address.
fatbaIlerina t1_jedkfay wrote
That is a whataboutism and 20 years ago and completely different circumstances. The US didn't target civilians or civilian infrastructure, they had no imperial plans, and they didn't threaten the world with nukes. It was also democracy invading an authoritarian and not an authoritarian invading a democracy.
Heres_your_sign t1_jedllso wrote
Like the IOC has any credibility.
xxdotell t1_jednyg4 wrote
“It’s deplorable that these governments don’t address the question of double standards with which we have been confronted,” the German lawyer said.
“We have not seen a single comment from them about their attitude about the participation of athletes whose countries are involved in the other 70 wars and armed conflicts in the world.”
I completely agree with him that the olympics should cease until all countries are behaving in a manner that their charter demands: “The goal of Olympism is to place sport at the service of the harmonious development of humankind, with a view to promoting a peaceful society concerned with the preservation of human dignity.”
Ambitious-Score-5637 t1_jedrkzg wrote
Deplores views on Russia but, is OK with Taiwan getting the shakedown from China. How do you spell IOC? C. U. N. T.
good_for_uz t1_jedsc2n wrote
Times change, these sporting events are now seen as a sign of acceptance and inclusion...of people willing to live by societies rules. By letting Russia partake we are condoning their actions just as the football world cup was justifying an oppressive regime.
It's a slippery slope and whether you agree or not, by allowing these things to happen other countries become bolder in their oppressive actions.
By banning criminal regimes we are making a clear statement that their actions are not acceptable in the modern world.
This is not the 1950s
xerthighus t1_jedud3t wrote
Depending on your definition of invasion you took most major nations out of the Olympics. Also you really shouldn’t punish athletes for decisions well beyond their control.
kgro t1_jedy162 wrote
It’s an interesting take on the sport — two contenders fighting for the title “most corrupt organisation”
VagueSomething t1_jedy23y wrote
The IOC should have been investigated by multiple countries for corruption many years ago. It is a massive scam full of pure corruption, bribes and fraudulent behaviour.
The IOC should be boycotted itself rather than trying to prevent Russia being part of the IOC sham.
miranomejoda t1_jedzt4c wrote
he chooses to not address cause he is using the same BS spin that all communists use. The sh!t they teach them in school is bizzaro backwards
$#@! this guy and double $#@! china!
RoIIerBaII t1_jee5h2i wrote
FIFA and IOC are the most corrupt fuckers on earth.
fredrikca t1_jeeg3bn wrote
I think they had imperial motives. Oil and such.
Ozziefudd t1_jef9017 wrote
Damn I love seeing someone bring facts into discussions lol.
Sardil t1_jefkrit wrote
Not at all. Russia is helping Ukraine to train for many of the categories such as target shooting, the javelin, shot put, hurdles, and several other disciplines.
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OneForAllOfHumanity t1_jefmr75 wrote
You're not wrong
MrJenzie t1_jegig8d wrote
maybe you should know ... ANYTHING about this first
a poor show from the IOC head
Traveshamamockery_ t1_jeh4x00 wrote
Might be time for the Olympics to go on hiatus for a couple decades.
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