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appsnaple t1_jdqyqdo wrote

Reply to comment by likeupdogg in New Zealand tells China its concern on lethal aid to Russia by HRJafael

> You have a warped view of China in your head

What part of /u/womanmind was wrong? Are any of the following not true?

  1. China is committing crimes against humanity against Uyghurs and other Muslims in Xinjiang. Sending millions to camps where many are tortured and all are brain washed.

  2. China is currently trying to steal the South China Sea by building artificial islands and placing military on it. They then aggressively try to push others out.

  3. China has made threats to invade peaceful Taiwan and appears to be planning for such an invasion.

  4. China executes about 2,000 people a year

  5. China has sided with Russia in it's illegal invasion of Ukraine. And Russia is committing horrible war crimes. China pretends to not side with Russia yet refuses to blame Russia but has blamed the west. China also helps Russia spread misinformation in support of Russia while they have at times censored pro-Ukraine content and their media takes only pro Russia stance.

I took the OP''s comment as referring to the government of China.

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likeupdogg t1_jdt3a1s wrote

The first point is false, if millions were actually in concentration camps the evidence would make it obvious, there would be no controversy. There are also many other Muslims in China apart from the Uyghurs that enjoy freedom to worship. How much do you actually know about Xinjiang's history and it's relationship to Afghanistan/global terrorism? History and nuance are extremely important in these conversations and seem to be completely missed by the majority of westerners.

I'm not well researched on the South China Sea issue but they definitely do not claim the entire thing for themselves. The lines are indeed blurry regarding this area due to its history of colonialism and war. As far as I know it's perfectly legal to build islands if they want to, at least their military bases are defensive and close to their homeland unlike some countries.

The Taiwan issue is incredibly complex and historical but as far as I know the Chinese government pushes for peaceful reunification, not invasion. To the Chinese, Taiwan is a part of China and so are it's people, they are brethren, they do not want to kill and invade them.

I don't have an opinion on whether or not it's legal to execute criminals in China. I'll just say that many in the west support capital punishment and many other countries besides China continue to practice it today. It doesn't make them an evil regime.

As for the war, due to geography China is inextricably tied to Russia and hurting that relationship would hurt the Chinese citizens. I think the government is trying to approach the situation with caution and doing whatever works out best for their own economy without "taking sides". Ultimately it's not their war and they don't want anything to do with it, it's a net loss for them whether they support Ukraine (lose Russian economic activity), support Russia (get shut out by the west economically), or stay neutral (people like you see that as supporting Russia anyway)

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appsnaple t1_je1msua wrote

> The first point is false,

of course you would say. That proves EVERYTHING. You are just blindly defending the CCP and unable to criticize them.

>if millions were actually in concentration camps the evidence would make it obvious,

There is lots of evidence. Let me guess, you only accept CCP media or accept only what the CCP says?

What media sources do you use??

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