Dadavester t1_jcvcn06 wrote
Reply to comment by Ok-disaster2022 in British man deported to Jamaica launches action against Home Office | Richard Wallace wrongly classed as Jamaican and deported after serving murder sentence, despite having been born in London by kwentongskyblue
Thats not quite true.
Those that arrived had documentation that was stored since the 50's/60's at the home office. In the late 2000's it was decided that those records would be scrapped. Anything importent would be digitised the rest would be rubbish.
When the Con/LD government came in they continued this. So all the government records were destroyed.
The Tories then changed the rules on what is acceptable as proof of residancy. Many of the Windrush generation now did not have the correct documentation. And the Home office no longer had any record of them.
The whole process was started under labour. But at the time it was not issue because of the rules. The tories changing the rules would not have been an issue, if the home office had kept the records.
It was a huge fuck up. And it took far too long for the tories to admit their error.
IIIlllIIIlllIIIEH t1_jcvpv70 wrote
I have a question, I am just curious.
I was aware there is no national ID in USA, but surely there is one in UK? How can you not know whether you are a citizen or not for more than 20 years and still have any access to government services/ administration/ sign any kind of contract?
Unless you are a nut job that lives off the grid, how can the government not be aware that you exist for so long?
In my country you either have a citizen number or foreigner number, there is no in between. Surely you may be in the process of getting citizenship but you would know that don't have it yet just by the fact that you don't have the number.
yabushido t1_jcvvin9 wrote
No, there is no national ID in the UK - there are talks about introducing one, but currently most common ID's are passport and driving licence. You must be British nationality (not citizen!) to get the passport.
How is goverment don't know you exist? Reason #1 - they know, they just don't care. Reason #2 - goverment agencies don't like to share information with eachother or with the ministers unless they really have to.
As for 'numbers' - in the UK it is called National Insurance Number. It is tied to pretty much all goverment services - taxes, benefits, NHS, you name it. You have one and you can access these services.
There is no 'special' set of numbers just for citizens, and it will not change if you applied and was granted citizenship.
Gairmonster t1_jcxb2of wrote
the landing documents were deliberately destroyed a few years earlier by the same government organizing the deportations. this is important because it can be seen as part of their plan. This is an openly racist government.
Dadavester t1_jcxc2l9 wrote
The Labour government organised and approved the documents being destroyed, and it was carried out under Tory-Lib Dem government.
All 3 parties share blame for thos documents being destroyed.
How the Tories are the only ones at fault for the removals.
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