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laineDdednaHdeR t1_iubuio3 wrote

Reply to comment by --Gungnir-- in At least 30 killed in car bombings in Somalia's capital by 3loves9

Possibly, but it shouldn't be normal for anyone.

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[deleted] t1_iubuy66 wrote

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laineDdednaHdeR t1_iubvcbn wrote

Their government is extremely corrupt. It would take a massive overhaul by the people to change it. Like the women of Iran are doing right now, but by a tenfold. It's not that easy to just tell the people to not do it.

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--Gungnir-- t1_iubvrlk wrote

QUESTION: Who's responsibility is that Overhaul..???

ANSWER: Somalis.

Somalis are their own worst enemy, if they cannot become peaceful, successful and enlightened, as a nation of people.

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CheMGeo_136 t1_iuby7g1 wrote

Just imagine being born in Somalia and getting, like, raped in your preteens or being brutally mutilated by gangs and there's a redditor somewhere on this planet thinking that it's your fault just because you were born in Somalia instead of US or Canada.

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CheMGeo_136 t1_iubzuzq wrote

It seems like you don't fully know how authoritarian regimes work and how state of constant war affects society. You do understand that you're basically mocking other people for being born into dictatorship and poverty? Like, you've actually done nothing to establish current regime of your country. Your ancestors did this, not you. You are but a random combination of two gametes born on a right soil with comfortable political and economic conditions. And it all also can change in the future because I'll be damned if you don't know how often it changed in the past. Were people born in USSR and repressed by soviet regime deserving of their punishment? Is it okay if people were executed by Maoist soldiers because these people were born in communist China and therefore it was their choice? Like, they could've been born anywhere else, but they've decided to be born in communist China. Was it also an obligation for Jewish people to better themselves during Hitler's reign?

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--Gungnir-- t1_iuc0mss wrote

>It seems like you don't fully know how authoritarian regimes work

Since my family helped kick an authoritarian regime, excuse me, an EMPIRE off of their territory and create a NEW form of Government, I would say I do have a little understanding.

Don't start with semantics, it's nobody's fault but the Somalis for how they have ended up and it's THEIR RESPONSIBILITY to change that. No other nation is obligated to do so.

Done and Done.

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CheMGeo_136 t1_iuc1oij wrote

So it's again all about "my ancestors did X" despite you having no relation to their deeds whatsoever, just being lucky to win the right genetic combination. And I assume all my previous questions are answered in the same tone – all these people were deserving of their deaths and genocide because they "refused to better themselves". Good day, Sir.

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Brave_Reaction t1_iuc9akg wrote

Also it’s hilarious when Americans think they invented democracy.

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ishdx t1_iuc3rj3 wrote

I love when people say things like that on Reddit because they have no idea

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thefourthone t1_iud0pdq wrote

You seem like a really nice person

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--Gungnir-- t1_iudx8qm wrote

Common sense and reality.. Somalia is Somalia's responsibility.

NO other nation is obligated to do anything for them.

FACT

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laineDdednaHdeR t1_iudzab8 wrote

Yeah, that's why the UN and NATO exist. So that there's no obligation to between nations to help one another. You know what, you're right. Fuck Ukraine from now on. They should handle their own business without the help of other nations' weapons and munitions.

You are asking for poverty stricken people to fight literal pirates that are paid off by their own government. Totalitarian regimes are not just toppled over so easily.

You have no idea how this works.

You are a child.

FACT

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--Gungnir-- t1_iue06fa wrote

Somalia is Somalia's responsibility.

Perhaps with all of your "BIG TALK", you would care to go there and fix their nation.

Oh wait, you're just going to sit at your keyboard and type responses that are misguided and ill informed.

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laineDdednaHdeR t1_iue18qy wrote

Oversimplification. You are asking me, one person to travel to a hostile country, and essentially commit suicide in hopes of a revolution. I never said it wasn't up to the Somali people. What I did say was that it is not so easy for their people to just overthrow the regime.

But continue your big talk about you benefiting from your ancestors who actually did do something with themselves.

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--Gungnir-- t1_iue2okl wrote

No it's not... You're either willing to go "FIX" Somalia or you're not.
You're gonna talk a big game but you're not willing to play.

ALSO, the U.N. has already been there, the Somalis didn't want the U.S. or the U.N. there..

It's the responsibility of the Somalis to better themselves, I nor anyone else is obligated to care, not one little bit.

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