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Pale_Native t1_iuhutz4 wrote

Reply to comment by Zuzara_The_DnD_Queen in South Africa's new Zulu king officially recognised by government by HRJafael

You can be as sassy as you want, but unless you want to re-word what you have written, the things you have written are objectively misinformation. My intention here is completely objective and the South African kingdoms (especially the modern renditions of them) have been well documented from many sources ranging from local records, university records even so far as international collections like Wikipedia. Again as I said (and I could use your sass about comprehension here), the monarch has influence due to the assets it inherits, not because it is formed under a system such as a constitutional monarchy. In fact, a formal monarchy system wouldn't be reasonable in South Africa due to the fact that currently 7 different monarchies are recognised. The Zulu kingdom currently holds the spoken majority of the population.

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Zuzara_The_DnD_Queen t1_iuhv5gu wrote

What are you even going on about?

I’m not discussing whether or not they’re a constitutional monarchy, all I said was that there are member of Zulu royalty in parliament. Cause there are. And that they tend to get these kids of roles with ease because they are cultural leaders. Which they do and are.

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Pale_Native t1_iuhxjk3 wrote

The point I'm trying to make is that you were being misleading. You mentioned the advocacy for their tribesman as a comparison to the British monarchy (hence formalised constitutional monarchy). The ~R60 million budget is given for maintainance of the Zulu royal institution, there is no formal obligation to the Zulu people. As is more a convention of South African politics as whole and not just the Zulu monarchy, there is corruption present and normal Zulu communities don't benefit from the political budget outside of perhaps cultural celebrations which evidently only the elite partake in in any case. I.e the obligation is removed because we don't have a formal monarchy system, the country is purely a presidential republic.

What you wrote about the advocacy, the inheritance and the terms were all misleading.

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Zuzara_The_DnD_Queen t1_iuhxqly wrote

The terms? You mean the terms in parliament?

Was I wrong about how long a term in parliament is?

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Pale_Native t1_iui0lsw wrote

Yes, assuming you were either talking about the king himself or his parliamentary representative (the traditional prime minister) neither have a term limit. The previous king served from 1948-2021 and the current traditional prime minister has held his position since 1954. The two five year terms that you mentioned in one of your other comments applies to our elected president.

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